Variation of parameter VS Undetermined Coefficients

[Davidian]

TL;DR Summary: Variation of parameter VS Undetermined Coefficients

Hi all,

Suppose we want to solve the following ODE
2y''+y'-y=x+7
with two different methods: undetermined coefficients and variation of parameters.
The solutions to the homogeneous problem are given by y_1(x)=exp(-x) and y_2(x)=exp(x/2) and their Wronskian is (3/2)exp(-x/2).
Undetermined coefficients: by assuming the particular solution to be of the form Ax+B, we find y_p(x)=-x-8 so that the solution is given by
y(x)=c1exp(-x)+c2exp(x/2)-x-8

Variation of parameters: by applying the formula we have u1(x)=-(2/3)(x+6)exp(x) and u2(x)=-(2/3)(2x+18)exp(-x/2) so that if we write
y(x)=u1(x)y1(x)+u2(x)y2(x)=c1exp(-x) +c2exp(x/2) -2x-16
so there is a mismatch of a factor 2 in the particular solution.

Am I doing something silly?

Thanks,
Davide

 

[pasmith]

Have you checked which of your solutions actually satisfies the ODE?

That aside, if you don't show your working we can't find where or why you went wrong. I suspect, however, that to use variation of parameters you must rewrite the ODE as <br /> y&#039;&#039; + \tfrac12y&#039; - \tfrac12 y = \tfrac12(x + 7) so that the coefficient of y&#039; is 1.

 

[BvU]

Hello @Davidian ,

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TL;DR Summary: Variation of parameter VS Undetermined Coefficients

Hi all,

Suppose we want to solve the following ODE
$$2y''+y'-y=x+7$$
with two different methods: undetermined coefficients and variation of parameters.

Notice how the legibility improves by using a little $\LaTeX$ ?
The link is to the lower left of the editing window

The solutions to the homogeneous problem are given by $y_1(x)=e^{-x}$ and $y_2(x)=e^{x/2}$ and their Wronskian is ${3\over 2} e^{-x/2}$.

Undetermined coefficients: by assuming the particular solution to be of the form $Ax+B$, we find $y_p(x)=-x-8$ so that the solution is given by $$y(x)=c_1\,e^{-x}+c_2\, e^{x/2}-x-8$$

Agree.

Variation of parameters: by applying the formula we have $$\begin{align*} u_1(x)&=-{\textstyle {2\over 3}}(x+6)\,e^{x}\qquad \sf \text{and} \\u_2(x)&=-{\textstyle {2\over 3}} (2x+18)\, e^{x/2}\end{align*}$$

I'm lost. What formula is that ? In my book (Stewart, Calculus, 5e) $u_1$ and $u_2$ have to satisfy$$u_1' y_1+ u_2' y_2 = 0 \quad{\sf\text{and}}\quad u_1'y_1' + u_2' y_2' ={\textstyle {1\over 2}}(x+7)$$but your $u$ don't satisfy the first one ...
(so I didn't bother to check the second )

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[Davidian]

Thanks for the reply: here are the calculations.
The characteristic polynomial is given by
$$
\lambda^2+\lambda-1=0,
$$
whose roots are $\lambda=-1$ and $\lambda=-1/2$. The solution to the homogeneous problem is
$$
y(x)=c_1e^{-x}+c_2e^{x/2}.
$$
and the Wronskian is
$$
e^{-x}\frac{1}{2}e^{x/2} +e^{-x}e^{x/2}=\frac{3}{2}e^{-x/2}.
$$
Assuming the particular solution of the form
$$
y_p(x)=Ax+B,
$$
and inserting in the original problem gives
$$
A-Ax-B=x+7,
$$
which gives $A=-1$ and $B=-8$. Combining these results gives
$$
y(x)=c_1e^{-x}+c_2e^{x/2}-x-8.
$$
I want to solve the same problem with the Variation of Parameters method. So I start by assuming $\ y_1(x)=e^{-x}$ and $\ y_2(x)=e^{x/2}$, and thus the first coefficient is
$$
u_1(x)=-\int \frac{e^{x/2}(x+7)}{W(x)}dx=-\frac{2}{3}\int e^{x}(x+7)dx=-\frac{2}{3}(x+6)e^x+c_1
$$
while the second is
$$
u_2(x)=\int \frac{e^{-x}(x+7)}{W(x)}dx=-\frac{2}{3}\int e^{-x/2}(x+7)dx=-\frac{2}{3}(2x+18)e^{-x/2}+c_2
$$
Combining all pieces gives
$$
y(x)=\left(-\frac{2}{3}(x+6)e^x+c_1\right)e^{-x}+\left(-\frac{2}{3}(2x+18)e^{-x/2}+c_1\right)e^{x/2}
$$
which becomes
$$
-\frac{2}{3}x-4+c_1e^{x}-\frac{4}{3}x-12 +c_2e^{x/2}.
$$
Combining all terms gives
$$
y(x)=c_1e^{-x}+c_2e^{x/2}-2x-16
$$
so a mismatch of a factor two in the particular solution.

The solution obtained with the Undetermined Coefficients method satisfies the differential equation, while the solution obtained with the Variation of the Parameters method does not satisfy the differential equation. In fact it gives the rest $(x+7)$ which depends on the factor two that I found in the solution with the second method.

Davide

 

[Davidian]

Hello @Davidian ,

$\qquad$!​

Notice how the legibility improves by using a little $\LaTeX$ ?
The link is to the lower left of the editing window Agree.I'm lost. What formula is that ? In my book (Stewart, Calculus, 5e) $u_1$ and $u_2$ have to satisfy$$u_1' y_1+ u_2' y_2 = 0 \quad{\sf\text{and}}\quad u_1'y_1' + u_2' y_2' ={\textstyle {1\over 2}}(x+7)$$but your $u$ don't satisfy the first one ...
(so I didn't bother to check the second )

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Thank you for your reply.

The formula is the generic one for the method
$$
u_1(x)=-\int\frac{y_2(x)g(x)dx}{W(x)}+c_1,
$$
while for
$$
u_2(x)=\int\frac{y_1(x)g(x)dx}{W(x)}+c_2,
$$
where $\ g(x)$ is the non homogeneous term. It is the same as the solution of the two conditions you posed, apart from the factor 1/2 in front of the second.

Thanks,
Davide

 

[BvU]

Good to see you speak $\TeX$ . But: enclose in double $ for displayed math and in double # for in-line math.
Tex tip: {\textstyle {1\over 2 }} (${\textstyle {1\over 2 }}$) in displayed math looks better than {\displaystyle {1\over 2 }} (${\displaystyle {1\over 2 }}$) .

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The characteristic polynomial is given by $\lambda^2+\lambda-1=0,$
whose roots are $\lambda=-1$ and $\lambda=-1/2$. The solution to the homogeneous problem is
$$
y(x)=c_1e^{-x}+c_2e^{x/2} $$and the Wronskian is
$$
e^{-x}\frac{1}{2}e^{x/2} +e^{-x}e^{x/2}=\frac{3}{2}e^{-x/2}.
$$
Assuming the particular solution of the form $y_p(x)=Ax+B$, and inserting in the original problem gives $A-Ax-B=x+7$, which gives $A=-1$ and $B=-8$. Combining these results gives
$$
y(x)=c_1e^{-x}+c_2e^{x/2}-x-8.
$$

And agreed.

I want to solve the same problem with the Variation of Parameters method. So I start by assuming $y_1(x)=e^{-x}$ and $y_2(x)=e^{x/2}$, and thus the first coefficient is $$
u_1(x)=-\int \frac{e^{x/2}(x+7)}{W(x)}dx=-\frac{2}{3}\int e^{x/2}(x+7)dx=-\frac{2}{3}(x+6)e^x+c_1
$$while the second is$$
u_2(x)=\int \frac{e^{-x}(x+7)}{W(x)}dx=-\frac{2}{3}\int e^{-x/2}(x+7)dx=-\frac{2}{3}(2x+18)e^{-x/2}+c_2
$$Combining all pieces gives $$
y(x)=\left(-\frac{2}{3}(x+6)e^x+c_1\right)e^{-x}+\left(-\frac{2}{3}(2x+18)e^{-x/2}+c_1\right)e^{x/2}
$$which becomes$$
-\frac{2}{3}x-4+c_1e^{x}-\frac{4}{3}x-12 +c_2e^{x/2}.
$$Combining all terms gives$$
y(x)=c_1e^{-x}+c_2e^{x/2}-2x-16
$$so a mismatch of a factor two in the particular solution.

The solution obtained with the Undetermined Coefficients method satisfies the differential equation, while the solution obtained with the Variation of the Parameters method does not satisfy the differential equation. In fact it gives the rest $(x+7)$ which depends on the factor two that I found in the solution with the second method.

Well, there must be a bug in there somewhere, but I have to chew on it (rusty... )

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[Davidian]

I think I understood my mistake.
The solutions $\ u_1(x)$ and $\ u_2(x)$ can be obtained by using the formula I posted only if the coefficients of the second order term is equal to 1. In my example, I need to divide everything by a factor 2.

Thanks for your help!
Davide

 

[BvU]

Good thing you found it... would have taken me a while...

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