Vector Calculation: Finding Magnitude with Given Vectors

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The problem involves three vectors, x, y, and z, that satisfy the equation x + y + z = 0. The task is to calculate the expression (x dot y) + (x dot z) + (y dot z) given the magnitudes of the vectors.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various methods to approach the problem, including dotting the equation with the vectors and expanding the expression (x + y + z)². Some express confusion about the operations involved and the nature of the dot product.

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The discussion includes attempts to clarify the operations and explore different methods. Some participants have offered hints and suggestions, while others express uncertainty about the steps involved. There is no explicit consensus on a single approach yet.

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One participant notes their lack of experience with such problems, indicating a potential gap in foundational understanding. Additionally, there is mention of the informal nature of the discussion, with some posts lacking formal structure.

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Three vectors x, y and z satisfy x + y + z = 0. Calculate the value of
(x dot y) + (x dot z) + (y dot z) if the magnitude of x is 2, the magnitude of y is 3, and the magnitude of z is 4.

Sorry I don't have time to format this properly, I've got to run off to work. This question has been bugging me, and any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Dot your equation with x, y and z, and add the results and see something fun happening.
 
Sorry, but I'm not sure I follow.
 
Do a bit at a time!

Hi Fineline! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(btw, it's ok to write x.y + x.z + y.z, once you've made it clear that x y and z are vectors.)

Yes, I don't follow either: x.y etc is a scalar, so you can't dot it with anything. :frown:

Hint: Can you calculate x.y + x.z? And then … :smile:
 
I do not have any experience with these problems, so I don't know the standard way to approach it. One possible approach, however, is to find what (x + y + z)2 is when expanded.
 
Tedjn said:
One possible approach, however, is to find what (x + y + z)2 is when expanded.

ooo! Your method is even nicer than mine! :blushing:
 
Fineline said:
Sorry, but I'm not sure I follow.
You have an arithmetic operation. (dot product) Use it. In as many ways as you can imagine.
 
Alright, thanks everyone, I got it all worked out.
 

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