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Homework Statement
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The Attempt at a Solution
How do I proceed?
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The discussion revolves around vector calculus, specifically focusing on index notation and its applications in expressing mathematical operations such as divergence and curl. Participants are exploring how to manipulate expressions involving the Kronecker Delta and Levi-Civita symbols.
There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the problems presented. Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the calculations, while others are questioning the notation and assumptions being used. The conversation reflects a collaborative effort to clarify concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.
Participants note the potential confusion arising from the introduction of basis vectors and the need to keep track of derivatives in expressions involving the Levi-Civita symbol. There is also mention of assumptions regarding the constancy of certain variables in the context of the calculations.
Hurkyl said:Using index notation sounds like a good place to start...
bigubau said:I would say that r has the components x,y,z or x_i. So the divergence of r is the <scalar product> between the del operator and the r.
So \mbox{Div} {}\mathbf{r} = (\mathbf{e}_i \partial_i)\cdot (x_j \mathbf{e}_j)
So complete the calculation.
Along the same lines you'll solve the 2nd point as well.
hunt_mat said:To start:
<br /> \mathbf{r}=x^{i}\mathbf{e}_{i}<br />
and div is:
<br /> \nabla\cdot =\partial_{i}(e_{i}\cdot )<br />
so:
<br /> \nabla\cdot\mathbf{r}=\sum_{i=1}^{3}\partial_{i}(\mathbf{e}_{i}\cdot (x^{i}\mathbf{e}_{i}))=...<br />
Ted123 said:So how do I evaluate (\mathbf{e}_i \partial_i)\cdot (x_j \mathbf{e}_j) ?
Is it just \mathbf{e}_1 \partial_1 x_1\mathbf{e}_1 + \mathbf{e}_2 \partial_2 x_2\mathbf{e}_2 + \mathbf{e}_3 \partial_3 x_3\mathbf{e}_3 (this doesn't look right at all)
Ted123 said:Where are these \mathbf{e} vectors coming from? In all my solutions to these questions on index notation I never see an \mathbf{e} appearing.
A similar question to the first one is Show \nabla (\mathbf{a} \cdot \mathbf{r} ) = \mathbf{a}\;,\;\mathbf{a}\in\mathbb{R}^3
and the solution is \partial_j a_k x_k = a_k \partial_j x_k = a_k \delta_{jk} = a_j
Ted123 said:OK so how do I write the 2nd one in terms of the Levi-Civita symbol?
Is it \varepsilon_{jmn} \partial_m \varepsilon_{nkl} a_k x_l ?
If this is right it goes to a_k ( \delta_{jk} \delta_{ml} - \delta_{jl} \delta_{mk}) \delta_{ml}
fzero said:It's less confusing if you use parentheses to keep track of what the derivative acts on:
\varepsilon_{jmn} \partial_m (\varepsilon_{nkl} a_k x_l)
This is true as long as a_k are constants, which is probably intended. Now you should try to compute \delta_{ml} \delta_{ml}.