Vector Definition: Magnitude & Direction Effects

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The discussion centers on the definition of vectors, emphasizing that vectors are elements of a vector space and are fundamentally independent of coordinate systems. It argues against defining vectors solely as quantities with magnitude and direction, highlighting that their true nature is as geometrical objects. The conversation also notes that the behavior of vector components under coordinate transformations, such as rotations, is crucial to understanding their properties.

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Why we can not define a vector as a quantity which has magnitude and direction? Why we define the vectors according to behavior of its components in rotated coordinate-frames?
 
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Vectors are, by definition, the elements of a vector space. In my opinion, other definitions are corollaries in disguise.
 
Vectors and tensors in general are mathematically defined independent of coordinate systems. This emphasizes the fact that they are geometrical objects which don't care about your preference for a certain coordinate system. If you regard a vector via its components as an array {a,b,...} which you can assign a length to, it looks like vectors cannot exist without the choice of coordinates.

From the coordinate-free definition it follows that the components (!) have a certain behaviour under coordinate transformations, like the rotations you mentioned.
 
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