Vector displacement equation trouble

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The problem involves calculating the vector displacement from a rescue plane to a ship using their respective positions defined in polar coordinates. The context is based on a radar station's measurements of both the ship and the plane's locations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss converting polar coordinates to Cartesian coordinates and the correct formulation of vector displacement. There are attempts to clarify the vector addition and subtraction process, particularly in distinguishing between the vectors from the station to the plane and from the station to the ship.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correct approach to vector subtraction, emphasizing the need to subtract the position vectors rather than add them. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding signs in the calculations, and participants are actively seeking clarification on their reasoning and calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note issues with signs in their calculations and express uncertainty about the correctness of their results. There is a mention of drawing diagrams to aid understanding, which suggests a visual approach to the problem is being utilized.

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Homework Statement



A radar station locates a ship in distress at horizontal range 16.0 km and bearing 136° clockwise from north. From the same station a rescue plane is at horizontal range 19.6 km, 148° clockwise from north, with elevation 1.80 km.

(a) Write the vector displacement from plane to ship, letting i represent east, j north, and k up.

Homework Equations



Vector Displacement - A=A(x)i+A(y)j+A(z)k

I also converted the polar coordinates to Cartesian coordinates.

x=r*cos(theta)
y=r*sin(theta)

x1 = -11.5094
y1 = -11.1145

x2 = -16.6217
y2 = -10.3864


The Attempt at a Solution



So far this is what I have...

vector displacement = (-11.5094 + -16.6217)i + (-11.1145 + -10.3864)j + (1.80)k

I have a feeling though that I am not doing something right. Could someone please double check. Thanks
 
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Note: Every time I put the answers in I get the response that I used the wrong sign.
 
Given two points P1 and P2, the vector displacement from P1 to P2 is v2-v1. (the v's are the position vectors of the points.)
 
Melchior25 said:

Homework Statement



A radar station locates a ship in distress at horizontal range 16.0 km and bearing 136° clockwise from north. From the same station a rescue plane is at horizontal range 19.6 km, 148° clockwise from north, with elevation 1.80 km.

(a) Write the vector displacement from plane to ship, letting i represent east, j north, and k up.

Homework Equations



Vector Displacement - A=A(x)i+A(y)j+A(z)k

I also converted the polar coordinates to Cartesian coordinates.

x=r*cos(theta)
y=r*sin(theta)

x1 = -11.5094
y1 = -11.1145

x2 = -16.6217
y2 = -10.3864


The Attempt at a Solution



So far this is what I have...

vector displacement = (-11.5094 + -16.6217)i + (-11.1145 + -10.3864)j + (1.80)k

I have a feeling though that I am not doing something right. Could someone please double check. Thanks
Did you draw a picture? The vector components from the station to the ship and from the station to the plane are exactly as you say. If you let "P" be the vector from the station to the plane, "S" the vector from the station to the ship, and "x" the vector from the plane to the ship, you should see that if you go from the station to the plane, then from the plane to the ship, that is the same as going directly from the station to the ship. In other words, S+ x= P. Then x= P- S. You want to subtract the vectors you calculated, not add them!
 
Of course, I did draw the picture. Every time I have a physics problem. I see what you're saying and it had not slipped my mind. Right after the post I did notice that I added them and then subtracted them but unfortunately I still get the wrong answer. Now I'm just stumped.
 

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