Vector evaluation & Lorentz force 02

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electromagnetic force on an electron in the presence of electric and magnetic fields, specifically using the Lorentz force law. The fields are defined with specific vector values, and the velocity of the electron is also given in vector form.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are discussing the application of the Lorentz force law and the evaluation of the cross product of velocity and magnetic field. There is confusion regarding the values used in the example solution, particularly the mislabeling of the electric field value as the magnetic field value.

Discussion Status

Some participants are clarifying the components of the Lorentz force law and the correct interpretation of the vector values. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the electric and magnetic fields and their roles in the calculation. While some calculations have been presented, there is no explicit consensus on the final solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants have noted a typo in the values presented, which has led to questions about the correct application of the Lorentz force law. There is also mention of difficulties in sharing visual aids for the workings involved in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


An electron in electric & magnetic fields;
E = 3.0x107 ex NC-1
B = 3.0 ez T
has velocity
v = 1.0x10^7 (2ex-ey)

Calculate em force on the electron.

Homework Equations


I'm using the Lorentz force law here.
F = q(E + v X B)

I have an example solution using vectors to evaluate direction

| ex_______ey_______ez |
| 2.0x107_ 1.0x107 __ 0 |
| 0_______0________3.0 |

The Attempt at a Solution


I think this has been posted as the solution to vXB,but then why is the E value 3.0 T there?

Could someone please ecplain why this is.
 
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Roodles01 said:
I have an example solution using vectors to evaluate direction

| ex_______ey_______ez |
| 2.0x107_ 1.0x107 __ 0 |
| 0_______0________3.0 |



The Attempt at a Solution


I think this has been posted as the solution to vXB,but then why is the E value 3.0 T there?

Could someone please ecplain why this is.

3.0 T is the B value, not the E value.
 
Oops, a typo, yes, but why is it there, how does it relate to the Lorentz law & is the solution

Final calculation 9.6x10-12 N

I seem to not be able to attach workings in a picture file, sorry.
 
The determinant will give you the cross product of v and B. The result of the determinant will be a vector. You then need to add the vector E to v x B and finally multiply by q.
 
OK
vXB = ex (3.0x107 - 0) + ey (-6.0x107 - 0) + ez (0)

q(vXB)= -e (3.0x107 ex + (-3.0x107 ex - 6.0x107 ey) + 6.0x107 * 1.6x10-19 ey) N

F = 9.6x10-12 ey N
 

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