Vector perpendicular to only 1 vector

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The problem involves finding a vector that is perpendicular to a given vector a = [2, -5, 6]. The context is within vector mathematics, specifically focusing on the concepts of dot product and cross product.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the dot product to establish a perpendicular relationship, noting that it results in a single equation with three unknowns. There is mention of using the cross product, but uncertainty exists about the next steps. Some participants suggest substituting values for variables to find a solution.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to identify a perpendicular vector. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of free variables and the implications of having more unknowns than equations, indicating a productive direction in the exploration of solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem allows for the selection of arbitrary values for some variables, which complicates the solution process. The teacher's suggestion to set one variable freely is acknowledged, but there is confusion about how to proceed with the resulting equations.

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Homework Statement


The vector a = [2,-5,6] is given. Determine one vector that is perpendicular to a.


Homework Equations



Cross product or dot product

The Attempt at a Solution



I messed around with the dot product by making the right side 0 because cos 0 = 90 but i don't think i can do anything with just 1 equation. For the cross product i got [-5z - 6y, 6x - 2z, 2y +5x] and idk where to take it from there.

i thought maybe subbing this into a x b = |a||b|Sin(1) so

[-5z - 6y, 6x - 2z, 2y +5x] = (√65)(√x^2 + y^2 + z^2)

but idk if there's any point in doing that

If you know how to do this please help :)
 
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Ruzic said:

Homework Statement


The vector a = [2,-5,6] is given. Determine one vector that is perpendicular to a.


Homework Equations



Cross product or dot product

The Attempt at a Solution



I messed around with the dot product by making the right side 0 because cos 0 = 90 but i don't think i can do anything with just 1 equation.
Show us what you did. The dot product is the right way to go.

Ruzic said:
For the cross product i got [-5z - 6y, 6x - 2z, 2y +5x] and idk where to take it from there.

i thought maybe subbing this into a x b = |a||b|Sin(1) so

[-5z - 6y, 6x - 2z, 2y +5x] = (√65)(√x^2 + y^2 + z^2)

but idk if there's any point in doing that

If you know how to do this please help :)
 
Mark44 said:
Show us what you did. The dot product is the right way to go.

i just got 2x - 5y +6z = 0

our teacher said we can make z any number we want then solve which works for finding a normal to a plane but if i do that here everything just cancels out
 
Since you have one equation in three unknowns, there are two free variables. Pick values for any two variables, and then solve for the remaining variable.

The values for x, y, and z will give you a vector that is perpendicular to <2, -5, 6>.
 
Sometimes it helps to visualize what you are doing. Given one vector, can you find a perpendicular one?

Try this experiment. Take two pens, each will represent a vector. You are given the direction of one of them. This is pen number one, set it on the desk so it points vertically. Can you position the second pen to make it perpendicular to the first vertical one? Sure you can, lay the pen horizontally on the table. But you can rotate that pen on the table at any angle and it will still be perpendicular to the first one. There are an infinite number of solutions; your job is to find one of them.

Many possible solutions shows up in math as having too many unknowns for the number of equations you have. A previous poster stated you have one equation and three unknowns, which means you can freely choose two values and solve for the third. The number of free variables will tell you the dimensionality of your possible solutions. Two free variables means your solutions will be 2d (ie lie in a plane, just like your second pen).
 

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