Vector Projection: Is it Possible for projuv=projvu?

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The discussion revolves around the conditions under which the vector projections of two vectors u and v, specifically projuv and projvu, can be equal. Participants explore the implications of the mathematical expressions involved in vector projection.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the conditions that might lead to the equality of the two projections, considering cases where either vector is the zero vector or when the vectors are parallel. Questions are raised about the implications of one vector being a multiple of the other and whether size differences affect the equality of projections.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants examining various scenarios and questioning the validity of their assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the vectors when they are parallel, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive proof or conclusion.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of vector projections under the constraints of their homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply.

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Homework Statement



Is it possible for

projuv=projvu


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This can only occur if:

[tex]\frac{|\mathbf{u\cdot v}|}{^{\|u\|^{2}}}\mathbf{u} = \frac{|\mathbf{u\cdot v}|}{^{\|v\|^{2}}}\mathbf{v}[/tex]

So if either is the zero vector, it is true. How can I prove that it can only be true if either is the zero vector, or v=u?
 
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You can immediately see from

[tex] \frac{|\mathbf{u\cdot v}|}{^{\|u\|^{2}}}\mathbf{u} = \frac{|\mathbf{u\cdot v}|}{^{\|v\|^{2}}}\mathbf{v}[/tex]

That u is a multiple of v (and vice versa). What do you think beyond that?
 
Office_Shredder said:
You can immediately see from



That u is a multiple of v (and vice versa). What do you think beyond that?

That if one is larger/smaller than the other, the projections cannot be equivalent. Is that sufficient to prove it?
 
IniquiTrance said:
That if one is larger/smaller than the other, the projections cannot be equivalent.

Do you have a reason for believing that?

If u is parallel to v, then

[tex] \frac{|\mathbf{u\cdot v}|}{^{\|u\|^{2}}}\mathbf{u}[/tex]

is parallel to
[tex]\frac{|\mathbf{u\cdot v}|}{^{\|v\|^{2}}}\mathbf{v}[/tex]

So how can we tell whether they are equal?
 
Is it because:

[tex]\frac{\mathbf{u}}{^{\|u\|}}\frac{1}{\|u\|} = \frac{\mathbf{v}}{^{\|v\|}}\frac{1}{\|v\|}[/tex]

So we have a constant times a unit vector on each side, therefore the constants must be equal?
 

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