Vector Question - u = u1+u2 where u1 is parallel

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The problem involves expressing the vector u = i - 2j as a sum of two vectors, u1 and u2, where u1 is parallel to v = 2i + 3j and u2 is parallel to w = i + j. Participants are exploring the properties of vector parallelism and the relationships between the given vectors.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss methods to determine if one vector is parallel to another, including the use of scalar multiples and the cross product. There is some confusion regarding the conditions for parallelism versus perpendicularity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the mathematical relationships needed to express u in terms of v and w. There is ongoing exploration of how to set up the equations needed to solve for the coefficients a and b, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their progress.

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Participants note that the problem appears before the section on the dot product in their textbook, suggesting a reliance on alternative methods for determining vector relationships. There is also mention of the need to solve two equations in two unknowns, which adds complexity to the problem.

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Homework Statement



Let u = i - 2j, v = 2i + 3j, and w = i + j. Write u = u1 + u2 where u1 is parallel to v and u2 is parallel to w. (See question 41.)


Homework Equations



Properties of vectors. Question 41: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090923151849AARqpWR

The Attempt at a Solution



I haven't had much of an attempt at this because I don't how to determine analytically if a vector is parallel to another vector. Through google I found that a vector A is parallel to a vector B if their dot product, A dot B, equals 0. But this question comes immediately before the Dot Product section of my calculus textbook, so I'm assuming there's a way to figure it out using other methods.

I'd appreciate any advice pointing me towards the right v/|v|... (get it?)

Thanks
 
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EternusVia said:

Homework Statement



Let u = i - 2j, v = 2i + 3j, and w = i + j. Write u = u1 + u2 where u1 is parallel to v and u2 is parallel to w. (See question 41.)


Homework Equations



Properties of vectors. Question 41: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090923151849AARqpWR

The Attempt at a Solution



I haven't had much of an attempt at this because I don't how to determine analytically if a vector is parallel to another vector.

The easy test for parallel is one vector is a multiple of the other.

Through google I found that a vector A is parallel to a vector B if their dot product, A dot B, equals 0.

No, that is the test for two vectors to be perpendicular.

But this question comes immediately before the Dot Product section of my calculus textbook, so I'm assuming there's a way to figure it out using other methods.

I'd appreciate any advice pointing me towards the right v/|v|... (get it?)

Thanks
 
LCKurtz said:
No, that is the test for two vectors to be perpendicular.

You're correct. I meant to say that if the cross product equals 0, then they are parallel. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ParallelVectors.html


But onto what you said. So a vector A is parallel to a vector B if, say, A = i + j and B = 2i + 2j?

Thanks
 
EternusVia said:
So a vector A is parallel to a vector B if, say, A = i + j and B = 2i + 2j?

Yes, a vector A is parallel with vector B if B=kA , with k a scalar.

ehild
 
Basically this problem asks you to find numbers, a and b, such that u= av+ bw. That is, such that
1- 2j= a(2i+ 3j)+ b(i+ j). You have to solve two equations in two unknowns.
 
Much to my chagrin I haven't had any luck with this problem. Would someone be able to give a brief work through or perhaps continue leading me in the right direction? It's probably so easy that a small hint would almost give the problem away...

Thanks
 
HallsOfIvy said:
Basically this problem asks you to find numbers, a and b, such that u= av+ bw. That is, such that
i- 2j= a(2i+ 3j)+ b(i+ j). You have to solve two equations in two unknowns.

EternusVia said:
Much to my chagrin I haven't had any luck with this problem. Would someone be able to give a brief work through or perhaps continue leading me in the right direction? It's probably so easy that a small hint would almost give the problem away...

Thanks

Show us what happened when you tried HallsOfIvy's suggestion in post #5.
 
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