Vectors and the Geometry of Space

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a line (line 3) that passes through a given point A and intersects two other lines (line 1 and line 2) defined by their respective equations. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and vector geometry.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the problem of finding line 3 given point A and lines 1 and 2.
  • Another participant points out that the equations for lines 1 and 2 were not included, suggesting this omission is problematic.
  • A third participant asserts that the equations for lines 1 and 2 are not necessary for the discussion.
  • A participant proposes a vector representation of lines 1 and 2 and suggests a method to derive line 3 using parameters t, s, and u.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding the choice of R1(t) as the starting point in the vector equation for R3(u), questioning why point A is not used instead.
  • One participant elaborates that the line R3 must be constructed in such a way that it can pass through point A for specific values of parameters s and t, noting that many choices may not allow this.
  • A later reply mentions that while the general formula for line 3 can be complex, applying it to specific cases is manageable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of including the equations for lines 1 and 2. There is also disagreement regarding the formulation of line 3 and the choice of the starting point in the vector equation. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the clarity of the problem due to missing equations and the complexity of the derived formulas. There is also a dependence on the definitions of the lines and the parameters involved.

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Line 1 and line 2 are given by equation 1 and 2. Point A has coordinates (xo, yo, zo). Find the equation of line 3 which goes through A and crosses L1 and L2.
 
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tmlfan_17 said:
Line 1 and line 2 are given by equation 1 and 2. Point A has coordinates (xo, yo, zo). Find the equation of line 3 which goes through A and crosses L1 and L2.
You failed to include equations 1 and 2.
 
Equation 1 and 2 are not supposed to be given.
 
tmlfan_17 said:
Line 1 and line 2 are given by equation 1 and 2. Point A has coordinates (xo, yo, zo). Find the equation of line 3 which goes through A and crosses L1 and L2.

Suppose line 1 is R1(t) = P + tD1
Line 2 is R2(s) = Q + sD2

where the P and Q are given points and the D's are given direction vectors.

Then a line from one to the other would be
R3(u) = R1(t) + u(R2(s)-R1(t))

Set that equal to your given point. You have three given coordinates of the point and three parameters s,t, and u to work with.
 
I don't understand why you put R1(t) as the r0 vector in the R3(u) vector equation instead of just inputting the given point A there.
 
tmlfan_17 said:
I don't understand why you put R1(t) as the r0 vector in the R3(u) vector equation instead of just inputting the given point A there.

The line R3 goes from the line with parameter t to the other with parameter s with t and s unknown. You have to choose s and t so that it's possible for R3 to go through A for some value of u. For most choices of s and t the line won't pass through A for any value of u.

[Edit -- Added] The general formula you get is long and messy but doing it for specific lines and points isn't too difficult.
 
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