Vectors in the direction of axis

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of vectors in relation to the axes, specifically focusing on vectors in the positive x-direction and their components. Participants explore the definitions and implications of a vector having a y component while being described as pointing in the positive x-direction.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants debate whether a vector in the positive x-direction can have a non-zero y component, with varying opinions on the implications of such a definition. Others suggest that all vectors with a positive x component should be considered as pointing in the positive x-direction, regardless of their other components.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing different perspectives on the definitions and language used to describe vectors. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of vector components, but no consensus has been reached on the terminology or the implications of having multiple components.

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There is mention of a professor's interpretation of vector direction, which may influence the participants' views. Additionally, the thread includes a separate inquiry about calculating vector direction in a homework context, indicating potential confusion over the requirements for expressing vector angles.

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I have been having a debate that a vector in the positive x-direction must not have a y component other than 0. What are the other opinions on this wording and other possible wordings to mean that a vector is on the same line as an axis?
 
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umm you waited 10 minutes on an open forum? perhaps you should reword what you are asking.

"what words to mean that a vector is on the same line as an axis"...hmm how about none ...lets use variables (x,y,z) that's for any axis...now by your wording i'd assume you meant a standard axis like x-axis,y-axis,z-axis or ei,ej,ek. So (a,0,0) and (0,b,0) and (0,0,c) where a,b,c!=0 all lie on their respective standard axis.
now you also asked about "positive x-direction vector" ...any vector with the x-component >0 is considered such a vector regardless of the other 2 components. with the other 2 components=0 you get a standard axis vector. x-axis,y-axis,z-axis or ei,ej,ek.
 
I have been having a debate that a vector in the positive x direction must not have a y component other than 0. Is that view correct or do all vectors with a positive x component "point in the positive x direction"? What are the other opinions on this wording and other possible wordings to mean that a vector is on the same line as an axis? My professor uses the meaning with the idea that a vector in the positive x direction points in the same direction as the positive x-axis so it is similar to saying a vector in the positive x-axis direction.
 
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I'll rephrase it slightly,

I have been having a debate that a vector in the positive x direction must not have a y component other than 0. Is that view correct or do all vectors with a positive x component "point in the positive x direction"? What are the other opinions on this wording and other possible wordings to mean that a vector is on the same line as an axis? My professor uses the meaning with the idea that a vector in the positive x direction points in the same direction as the positive x-axis so it is similar to saying a vector in the positive x-axis direction.
 
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although it is vague, it is reasonable to assume that when a vector is in the positive x direction it only has a component in the x axis. I see no need to be pedantic about it.
 
If a vector has a y component then it is not pointing in the x direction. Also, a vector pointing in the x direction is parallel to the x axis.
 
You should only post your question in one area. Your other posting has already been answered.
 
This is more of a language / logic issue:

The statement "a vector in the positive x axis" implies the vector has no other component.

A "vector with a component in the x axis" implies that the vector may or may not have a component along one or more other axis.
 
This thread has been merged, but I haven't pruned the postings. So things may appear out of place.

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Hi everyone, I'm having trouble calculating a vector direction that my schools online homework thing will accept, and i don't know why and I'm going nuts cause this stuff is easy!

Consider four vectors ~F1, ~F2, ~F3, and ~F4,
where their magnitudes are
F1 = 48 N,
F2 = 22 N,
F3 = 24 N, and
F4 = 50 N.

Let
theta1 = 150 degrees,
theta2 = -140 degrees,
theta3 = 20 degrees, and
theta4 = -63 degrees, measured from the positive x axis
with the counter-clockwise angular direction
as positive.

What is the magnitude of the resultant vec-
tor ~F , where ~F = ~F1 + ~F2 + ~F3 + ~F4? Answer
in units of N.

My work found the resultant vector to be:

-13.17 i - 26.48 j , with a magnitude of 29.5772

This online homework thing accepted my magnitude as the correct answer for this problem, which means my vector addition was ok. My problem is in finding what's wrong with how i determine the direction for the next problem that uses the answer from this one.

(part 2 of 2)
What is the direction of this resultant vector
~F?

Note: Give the angle in degrees, use coun-
terclockwise as the positive angular direction,
between the limits of -180 degrees and +180 degrees from
the positive x axis. Answer in units of degrees.

Can someone explain to me that "Note:"?

my answer for this was 116.441 degrees when i tried one way, (solving for theta when i subbed the x component of the vector and the magnitude into x = R cos(theta) as x = Magnitude*cos(theta)). I also tried adding 180 to that answer in case that crazy note meant to do that, and i tried the arctan(y component / x component) = 63.56 degrees, which the site also said was wrong answer. I am really confussed on this.
 

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