Velocity dependent force question

In summary, the conversation discusses the problem of finding the speed of a moving object, which is acted upon by a retarding force that is dependent on the speed. The conversation suggests using the equation F=ma and the method of separation of variables to solve the problem. The solution presented involves integrating the equation and taking the natural log to find the final velocity as a function of time. However, a correction is suggested regarding the use of the exponential function.
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Homework Statement


Initial speed = v, only for acting on it is retarding force F(v) = -Ae^(-cv). Find it's speed as a function of time.




Homework Equations


F=ma


The Attempt at a Solution


m(dv/dt) = -Ae^(-cv)
dv / (-Ae^(-cv) = dt / m

integrating gives
[e^(-cv)/Ac] = t/m

where the left side of that integral is evaluated from initial vi to final vf

e^(-cvi)/Ac-e^(-cvf)/Ac = t / m

multiplying by AC and taking the natural log of all of this...

-cvf + cvi = ln(tAc/m)
vf = vi - (1/c)*ln(tAc/m)

Does this look correct? An online source says this is wrong. Thanks for the help, LaTex coming soon.
 
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Well, check your signs. Principally, using "separation of variables" is the correct approach to solve this 1st order ODE.
 
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PsychonautQQ said:

Homework Statement


Initial speed = v, only for acting on it is retarding force F(v) = -Ae^(-cv). Find it's speed as a function of time.




Homework Equations


F=ma


The Attempt at a Solution


m(dv/dt) = -Ae^(-cv)
dv / (-Ae^(-cv) = dt / m

integrating gives
[e^(-cv)/Ac] = t/m
You do know that [itex]1/e^{-cv}= e^{cv}[/itex], don't you? So simpler is
[tex]me^{cv}dv= -Adt[/tex]
and the integrating
[tex]\frac{m}{c}e^{cv}= -At+ C[/tex]

where the left side of that integral is evaluated from initial vi to final vf

e^(-cvi)/Ac-e^(-cvf)/Ac = t / m

multiplying by AC and taking the natural log of all of this...

-cvf + cvi = ln(tAc/m)
vf = vi - (1/c)*ln(tAc/m)

Does this look correct? An online source says this is wrong. Thanks for the help, LaTex coming soon.
 
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