Velocity of football kick problem

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The problem involves a football player kicking a field goal from a distance of 45 meters, launching the ball at an angle of 35 degrees above the horizontal to clear a goalpost that is 3.1 meters high. The discussion centers around the initial velocity required for the ball to just clear the crossbar, with air resistance being ignored.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relevant kinematic equations for constant acceleration and the geometry of the projectile motion involved. There is an emphasis on understanding the parabolic trajectory of the ball and the relationship between horizontal and vertical motion.

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Some participants have provided guidance on starting points, such as identifying relevant equations and sketching the situation. There is an exploration of the initial and final positions in both the vertical and horizontal dimensions, as well as the need to express velocities in terms of the unknown total velocity.

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Participants note that the problem is considered challenging, categorized as a level 3 question, which may contribute to the confusion and difficulty in approaching it.

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A football player kicks a field goal from a distance of 45m from the goalpost.
The football is launched at 35 degrees above horizontal.
What initial velocity is required so that the football just clears the goalpost crossbar that is 3.1m above the ground? ignore air resistance.




This question REALLY got me stomped because its considered a lvl 3 question (the hardest there is in this book) and I really have no idea where to begin this...
 
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Phy.Student said:
A football player kicks a field goal from a distance of 45m from the goalpost.
The football is launched at 35 degrees above horizontal.
What initial velocity is required so that the football just clears the goalpost crossbar that is 3.1m above the ground? ignore air resistance.




This question REALLY got me stomped because its considered a lvl 3 question (the hardest there is in this book) and I really have no idea where to begin this...

Welcome to the PF.

What are the Relevant Equations? Write down the kinematic equations for constant acceleration -- those are your starting point.

Then draw a sketch of the geometry of the situation. The ball follows a parabolic arc, no? Its horizontal velocity is constant, and its vertical velocity as a function of time comes from those kinematic equations...
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.

What are the Relevant Equations? Write down the kinematic equations for constant acceleration -- those are your starting point.

Then draw a sketch of the geometry of the situation. The ball follows a parabolic arc, no? Its horizontal velocity is constant, and its vertical velocity as a function of time comes from those kinematic equations...

Well i copied everything that was on that question and the equations that we have been mostly using are
Vf= Vi + a t

Vf^2 = Vi^2 + 2 a d

D = Vi(t) + 1/2 (a) (t^2)

and I'm assuming it would be an arc since its nearly impossible for a football to travel in an uniform line.
 
Phy.Student said:
Well i copied everything that was on that question and the equations that we have been mostly using are
Vf= Vi + a t

Vf^2 = Vi^2 + 2 a d

D = Vi(t) + 1/2 (a) (t^2)

That's not quite all that you need, but is close. The ball starts from the ground and ends up 3.1m high at the end of its parabolic arc. So you have the initial y and final y. And it travels 45 meters horizontally, so you have your initial x and final x. You know the launch angle, so that gives you the vertical and horrizontal starting velocities, in terms of the unknown total velocity. The horizontal velocity is constant (why?), and the vertical velocity varies as you have shown in your equation.

Write two equations and solve for the two unknowns (probably initial overall velocity and the flight time...).
 

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