Venezuelans protest Chavez's referendum

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the political climate in Venezuela regarding President Hugo Chavez's proposed referendum to eliminate term limits and expand presidential powers. Participants explore the implications of these changes, the reactions of the Venezuelan populace, and the broader context of democracy in Venezuela.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express surprise at the extent of Chavez's proposals, likening him to historical authoritarian figures, while others argue he is not as extreme.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of removing term limits, with some asserting it violates democratic principles and could lead to authoritarianism.
  • Participants note that even some of Chavez's supporters are hesitant about the constitutional changes, indicating a potential shift in public opinion.
  • There are questions regarding the specifics of the referendum beyond the term limits, with calls for factual information rather than opinions or editorials.
  • Some participants highlight the lack of international observers in elections as a factor that undermines their legitimacy.
  • Claims are made regarding Chavez's methods of gaining support, with references to accusations of bribery and manipulation of political opponents.
  • Discussions include comparisons to other political figures and historical contexts, suggesting that changing laws for personal benefit is a broader issue in politics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the implications of Chavez's proposals or the legitimacy of his actions. Disagreement exists on whether the changes are a threat to democracy and the motivations behind them.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the situation, including the historical context of Venezuelan politics and the varying perspectives on democracy and governance.

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Burnsys said:
How do you abuse of state media. Doesn't rupert murdoch "Abuse" of his own media corporations? i don't see the problem with that, that is what state media is for.

That's ok, you can switch the channel! State media is not the only media.
There's the difference in our understanding of the purpose of state media. IMO, it should not be used as a political mouthpiece of those in power.

Burnsys said:
And why would i have to extend a contract if it just expires. There is no obligation, That is why contracts have a lifetime.
I'm not sure how it works in Venezuela, but I definitely see a problem with a government refusing to extend such "contracts" on political grounds.
 

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