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Hi,

I have to find the integral of 1/square root(x-3)dx

this is what i did

let u=sqr root(x-3)
du=1/2*square root(x-3)dx
dx=2*square root(x-3)du

the integral of 1/square root(x-3)dx= 2*square root(x-3)(1/u)du

..ok now what i did is plug back u= square root of(x-3) in the denom
that way I am only left with 2du.

Then i integrated that to 2x2/2 which is equal to x^2.

Ultimatley I got the integral to equal X ! which can't be right!

But doesn't this make sense, I know i did not do anything wrong...
 
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[tex]\frac{d}{dx}\left(\sqrt{x-3}\right) \neq \frac{1}{2}\left(\sqrt{x-3}\right)[/tex]
 
..ok now what i did is plug back u= square root of(x-3) in the denom
that way I am only left with 2du.

that move is NOT legit.

the integral of 1/square root(x-3)dx= 2*square root(x-3)(1/u)du

neither is that one, wen u change variables, ur new equation must have only that variable - or constants of course...if you write root(x-3) IN TERMS of u that is fine, but the way it is written doesn't make sense.

Hint: let u=x-3.
 
neutrino said:
[tex]\frac{d}{dx}\left(\sqrt{x-3}\right) \neq \frac{1}{2}\left(\sqrt{x-3}\right)[/tex]

I meant that the derivative of sqroot(x-3)=1/2sqroot(x-3)
 
gochi said:
I meant that the derivative of sqroot(x-3)=1/2sqroot(x-3)
And I'm saying that it is not. :wink:

[tex]\frac{d}{dx}\left({x-3}\right)^\frac{1}{2} = \frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{x-3}}\right)[/tex]
 
"1/2sqroot(x-3)", i think this is 1 OVER 2 times the square root of x minus 3.
 
Your first part is flawless. Integrate by parts:
[tex]\int xdu = xu-\int udx[/tex]
set [tex]x=2[/tex] and [tex]u=\sqrt{x-3}[/tex]. Therefore [tex]du=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x-3}}[/tex]. Obviously [tex]dx=0[/tex].
Plug in your values:
[tex]\int 2(\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x-3}}) = 2(\sqrt{x-3})-\int 0[/tex]

Simplify and you get:
[tex]\int \frac{1}{\sqrt{x-3}} = 2\sqrt{x-3}[/tex]

As you do more integrations, this process will become easier.
 
u-substituting x-3 is a lot easier!
 
SiddharthM said:
"1/2sqroot(x-3)", i think this is 1 OVER 2 times the square root of x minus 3.
The problem is that most people would interpret it as (1/2) sqroot(x-3), not 1/(2 sqroot(x-3)). USE PARENTHESES!
 
that he didn't make that mistake is clear. Look at his next step:

dx=2*square root(x-3)du
 
Ah... I apologise, gochi. But as Halls emphasised, please make use of parentheses. :)