Verify Ψ is solution of quantum oscillator using H operator

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The discussion revolves around verifying whether the wave function Ψ(x) = (1/a√π)½ exp(-(x²/2a²)) is a solution to the time-independent Schrödinger equation (TISE) for a linear harmonic oscillator, where a = √(ħ/mω) and V(x) = ½ mω²x².

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  • Participants discuss differentiating the wave function and applying the Hamiltonian operator. There are questions about the value of n for the wave function and whether the resulting energy expression aligns with expected outcomes. Some participants express uncertainty about their algebraic manipulations and seek clarification on their approach.

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Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some providing expressions for the Hamiltonian and discussing the implications of their findings. There is a recognition of potential algebraic errors, and guidance is being sought to clarify misunderstandings. The discussion includes attempts to verify the wave function's validity against the Schrödinger equation.

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Homework Statement


verify that Ψ(x) = ( 1/a√π)½ exp(-(x2/2a2))
is a solution to the TISE for linear harmonic oscillator. Where a = √(hbar/mw). and V(x) = ½ mw2x2.

Homework Equations


HΨ=EΨ
E_n = (n+½)hbar*w

The Attempt at a Solution



I've started by differentiating the wave function twice to find http://www5a.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP2111e793aff6db9408500002d959h09e9180hfg?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=28 .
Then when I apply the Hamiltonian operator to the wave function I can't see a way this would cancel down to (n+½)hbar*w. Have I gone about this the right way at all?

Thanks
 
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pretty sure n=0, I've seen the full version of the wave function i have before and n=0 would make it cancel to what I have now but I am still a little lost
 
if that is the n for that wave function, then that is the equation you must solve...
 
so E should equal 1/2 hbar*w but I can't find a way to make the Schrödinger equation I've written to cancel to that. Maybe I'm not understanding
 
ElectricEel1 said:

Homework Statement


verify that Ψ(x) = ( 1/a√π)½ exp(-(x2/2a2))
is a solution to the TISE for linear harmonic oscillator. Where a = √(hbar/mw). and V(x) = ½ mw2x2.

Homework Equations


HΨ=EΨ
E_n = (n+½)hbar*w

The Attempt at a Solution



I've started by differentiating the wave function twice to find http://www5a.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP2111e793aff6db9408500002d959h09e9180hfg?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=28 .
Then when I apply the Hamiltonian operator to the wave function I can't see a way this would cancel down to (n+½)hbar*w. Have I gone about this the right way at all?

Thanks

Show your complete, final, expression for ##H \psi##, so we can tell if you have made an algebraic error or not. Right now, we cannot say where your problem lies.
 
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hey. since I last posted I think i got a solution.
my expression was
H = -hbar^2/2m d^2/dx^2 + 1/2 mw^2x^2

I took the second derivative of psi and wrote it as (x^2/a^4 - 1/a^2)*psi and then moved everything onto the left hand side with

hbar^2/2m (x^2/a^4 - 1/a^2)psi + (E-1/2mw^2x^2)psi=0

then collected x^2 terms and constant terms and found

E - hbar^2/2ma^2 = 0
so substituting a back into the equation it reduced down to (hbar*w)/2
 
So I had to do the same problem but this time with

2xe*e^((-x^2)/(2a^2))

This time when I collected terms I ended with only one x^3,x^2,x,constant term each. Am I right in thinking this wave function is not a solution then? To the schroedinger equation and linear harmonic oscillator
 
ElectricEel1 said:
So I had to do the same problem but this time with

2xe*e^((-x^2)/(2a^2))

This time when I collected terms I ended with only one x^3,x^2,x,constant term each. Am I right in thinking this wave function is not a solution then? To the schroedinger equation and linear harmonic oscillator

What, exactly, is your final expression for ##H \psi##? Write out all the details!
 

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