Verifying a solution to a DE (please check my work)

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The discussion revolves around verifying whether the functions y_1 = 1 and y_2 = √t are solutions to the differential equation yy'' + (y')² = 0. The original poster has confirmed the first solution but is uncertain about the second solution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to verify the second solution by calculating its derivatives and substituting them into the equation. They express confusion over the requirement to verify solutions when they believe one may not satisfy the equation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance by requesting the derivatives of √t and pointing out potential errors in the calculations. There is a recognition of a mistake related to the properties of exponents, leading to a revised conclusion that y_2 is indeed a solution. However, there is no explicit consensus on the verification process itself.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes a note about the interpretation of expressions involving fractions and the upcoming topic of linear independence, specifically regarding the Wronskian determinant.

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Homework Statement


Is y_1 = 1 and y_2 = root t solutions of the eqn: yy'' + (y')^2 = 0 ?

first solution works (i already verified)

2nd solution i get this:

(1/2)t^(-1) + (1/4)t^(1/4) which does not equal zero.

is this correct so far? the thing that confuses me is the question tells me to "verfiy that they are solutions" but one of them isnt. Either i mutiplied exponents incorrectly, or y_2 is not a solution.
thanks for any help.

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Show us the 1st and 2nd derivatives of \sqrt {t}
 
y(t) = t^(1/2)

y'(t) = (1/2)t^(-1/2)

y''(t) = (1/4)t^(-3/2)

plug into equation..

t^(1/2)((1/4)t^(-3/2) + ( (1/2)t^(-1/2))^2

(1/2)t^(-1) + (1/4)t^(1/4)

thanks
 
hang on sec.. i see something stupid
 
it was property of exponents that was problem.. wow.
so y_2 = root t is also a solution

(1/4t) - (1/4t) = 0
 
darryw said:
y(t) = t^(1/2)

y'(t) = (1/2)t^(-1/2)

y''(t) = (1/4)t^(-3/2)

You also have an issure withe the 2nd der. You lost a minus sign, it should read:
y"(t) = - \frac 1 4 t^{- \frac 3 2}
Now it should all work out.

plug into equation..

t^(1/2)((1/4)t^(-3/2) + ( (1/2)t^(-1/2))^2

(1/2)t^(-1) + (1/4)t^(1/4)

thanks
 
darryw said:
it was property of exponents that was problem.. wow.
so y_2 = root t is also a solution

(1/4t) - (1/4t) = 0

One other thing. (1/4t) is usually interpreted to mean (1/4) * t. If you want t in the denominator, write this as 1/(4t).
 
next part asks about linear independence, but i already know this is just making sure wronskian doesn't equal zero. thanks for all the help
 

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