Verifying Kirchoff's law in an AC RLC circuit

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This discussion focuses on verifying Kirchhoff's first law in an AC RLC circuit using an oscilloscope and voltmeter. The participants confirm that summing the peak voltages across the resistor, capacitor, and inductor does not yield a meaningful result, as the peak voltages do not occur simultaneously. Additionally, they clarify that AC voltmeters measure the effective voltage, which is the peak voltage divided by √2, leading to a different outcome than expected. The resonance frequency of the circuit is noted as 2.4 kHz, indicating that the 2 kHz frequency used in the experiment is low compared to the resonance frequency, resulting in minimal AC effects.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Kirchhoff's laws in electrical circuits
  • Familiarity with RLC circuit components (resistor, inductor, capacitor)
  • Knowledge of oscilloscopes and their operation in AC mode
  • Basic concepts of voltage measurement and effective voltage (RMS)
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  • Study the principles of AC circuit analysis and phasor representation
  • Learn about the resonance frequency calculation in RLC circuits
  • Explore the differences between peak voltage and effective voltage measurements
  • Investigate the use of oscilloscopes for measuring phase differences in AC circuits
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Homework Statement


I have the following RLC circuit with an sinusoidal voltage generator and I want to verify the Kirchoff's first law with an oscilloscope. To measure the peak voltage in each of the components I just permute the positions between the component and the resistor.
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The question is: If I sum all the peak tension, will I get ##\mathcal{E} = V_R + V_C + V_L## ?
Next question: if I measure each component's voltage with and voltmeter in AC mode, will the result be the same as before?

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Hello Felipe,

You'll have to show an attempt at solution -- see guidelines

And list some relevant equations. This way potential helpers cannot distinguish if and how much you know about phase, complex impedance, etcetera.

In the mean time: answers are "No" and "I don't know what you mean with: as before"

Do you do all this on paper or do you have a screen shot of the oscilloscope picture ?
If so, what have you observed ?

Furthermore: 2kHz is a very low frequency compared to the resonance frequency of this circuit, so AC effects are rather small.
 
I'm almost sure that the answer for my both questions are NO. since the peak voltage does not occur in the same time in the oscilloscope and the AC voltmeter just take the ##1/\sqrt{2}## of the peak voltage it would result the same. Am I right ?
 
Hi friend, sorry about the incomplete thread.
BvU said:
Furthermore: 2kHz is a very low frequency compared to the resonance frequency of this circuit, so AC effects are rather small.
Isn't the resonance frequency ##1/\sqrt{LC} = 2.4~\mathrm{kHz}## ?
 
How did you calculate that ?
 
Never mind, I goofed o:)o:)o:) 2.4 kHz it is.
 
So you have the reactance of the coil, of the capacitor and of the resistor. The voltage (on ch2 of the scope) over the latter gives you the current, so with the 5 V you get the reactance of the RLC series circuit.

You can sum all the peak voltages with ##\mathcal{E} = V_R + V_C + V_L##, but that ##\mathcal{E}## has no physical meaning.

The AC meters usually give you ##V_{\rm eff}## as you indicate, so summing those AC measurements should give you ##\mathcal{E}/\sqrt 2##

In short: I think you understand :smile: .
 
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Yeah, after thinking a bit it already seems quite clear to me. Thank you friend
 

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