Verifying Kirchoff's law in an AC RLC circuit

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The discussion revolves around verifying Kirchhoff's first law in an AC RLC circuit with a sinusoidal voltage generator. The original poster seeks to understand the relationship between the peak voltages across the resistor, capacitor, and inductor, and whether measuring these voltages with an oscilloscope and an AC voltmeter yields consistent results.

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  • Participants discuss the original poster's method of measuring peak voltages and question the timing of these measurements. There is also a consideration of the effects of frequency relative to resonance and the implications for voltage measurements.

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Participants are exploring the implications of measuring voltages in the circuit and discussing the nature of AC measurements. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between peak and effective voltages, but no consensus has been reached on the original poster's questions.

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There is mention of the resonance frequency of the circuit and the potential impact of using a low frequency (2 kHz) on the measurements. Participants also note the importance of showing attempts at solutions and relevant equations to facilitate further discussion.

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I have the following RLC circuit with an sinusoidal voltage generator and I want to verify the Kirchoff's first law with an oscilloscope. To measure the peak voltage in each of the components I just permute the positions between the component and the resistor.
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The question is: If I sum all the peak tension, will I get ##\mathcal{E} = V_R + V_C + V_L## ?
Next question: if I measure each component's voltage with and voltmeter in AC mode, will the result be the same as before?

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Hello Felipe,

You'll have to show an attempt at solution -- see guidelines

And list some relevant equations. This way potential helpers cannot distinguish if and how much you know about phase, complex impedance, etcetera.

In the mean time: answers are "No" and "I don't know what you mean with: as before"

Do you do all this on paper or do you have a screen shot of the oscilloscope picture ?
If so, what have you observed ?

Furthermore: 2kHz is a very low frequency compared to the resonance frequency of this circuit, so AC effects are rather small.
 
I'm almost sure that the answer for my both questions are NO. since the peak voltage does not occur in the same time in the oscilloscope and the AC voltmeter just take the ##1/\sqrt{2}## of the peak voltage it would result the same. Am I right ?
 
Hi friend, sorry about the incomplete thread.
BvU said:
Furthermore: 2kHz is a very low frequency compared to the resonance frequency of this circuit, so AC effects are rather small.
Isn't the resonance frequency ##1/\sqrt{LC} = 2.4~\mathrm{kHz}## ?
 
How did you calculate that ?
 
Never mind, I goofed o:)o:)o:) 2.4 kHz it is.
 
So you have the reactance of the coil, of the capacitor and of the resistor. The voltage (on ch2 of the scope) over the latter gives you the current, so with the 5 V you get the reactance of the RLC series circuit.

You can sum all the peak voltages with ##\mathcal{E} = V_R + V_C + V_L##, but that ##\mathcal{E}## has no physical meaning.

The AC meters usually give you ##V_{\rm eff}## as you indicate, so summing those AC measurements should give you ##\mathcal{E}/\sqrt 2##

In short: I think you understand :smile: .
 
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Yeah, after thinking a bit it already seems quite clear to me. Thank you friend
 

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