Verifying Solution to 2\sin\theta\cos\theta + 2 \sin\theta - \cos\theta -1 = 0

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The discussion revolves around verifying the solution to the trigonometric equation 2\sin\theta\cos\theta + 2 \sin\theta - \cos\theta - 1 = 0, focusing on the steps taken to solve it and the implications of those steps.

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  • Participants discuss the factorization of the equation and question the validity of dividing by terms that could equal zero. There is exploration of different potential solutions based on the factored form.

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Participants are actively engaging with each other's reasoning, with some providing guidance on how to approach the factorization correctly. There is an acknowledgment of different interpretations of the problem, particularly concerning the limits of the solutions.

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There is mention of the absence of imposed limits on the values of \theta, which influences the interpretation of the solutions provided.

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Can someone please check over this real quick. I think I’ve solved this problem correctly, but, I’m not sure.

Solve: [tex]2\sin\theta\cos\theta + 2 \sin\theta - \cos\theta -1 = 0[/tex]


[tex]2 \sin\theta(\cos\theta + 1) -(\cos\theta + 1) = 0[/tex]

[tex]2 \sin\theta(\cos\theta + 1) = (\cos\theta + 1)[/tex]

[tex]2 \sin\theta = 1[/tex]

[tex]\sin\theta = 1/2[/tex]

[tex]\theta = (\frac{\pi}{6} + k2\pi)\ \mbox {or}\ (\frac{5\pi}{6} + k2\pi)[/tex]
 
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Apost8 said:
Can someone please check over this real quick. I think I’ve solved this problem correctly, but, I’m not sure.

Solve: [tex]2\sin\theta\cos\theta + 2 \sin\theta - \cos\theta -1 = 0[/tex]


[tex]2 \sin\theta(\cos\theta + 1) -(\cos\theta + 1) = 0[/tex]

[tex]2 \sin\theta(\cos\theta + 1) = (\cos\theta + 1)[/tex]

[tex]2 \sin\theta = 1[/tex]

[tex]\sin\theta = 1/2[/tex]

[tex]\theta = (\frac{\pi}{6} + k2\pi)\ \mbox {or}\ (\frac{5\pi}{6} + k2\pi)[/tex]

Looks good to me. The hard way to check this is to plug your answer into your original equation and do the trig to see if it works. The easy way is to pick several values of k and plug it into your original equation using a calculator. :biggrin:

-Dan
 
OK, thanks for your help!
 
Apost8 said:
...[tex]2 \sin\theta(\cos\theta + 1) -(\cos\theta + 1) = 0[/tex]

[tex]2 \sin\theta(\cos\theta + 1) = (\cos\theta + 1)[/tex]

[tex]2 \sin\theta = 1[/tex]
Hmm, this step looks wrong.
What if [tex]cos \theta + 1 = 0[/tex]? And you cannot divide both sides by 0!
The better way is to factor out [tex]cos \theta + 1[/tex], like this:
[tex]2 \sin\theta(\cos\theta + 1) -(\cos\theta + 1) = 0[/tex]
[tex]\Leftrightarrow (\cos \theta + 1)(2 \sin\theta - 1) = 0[/tex]
Now if the product of them is 0, then either [tex]\cos \theta + 1 = 0[/tex] or [tex]2 \sin\theta - 1 = 0[/tex], right?
Can you go from here? :)
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@ topsquark, it's not correct, bud. :smile:
 
VietDao29 said:
Hmm, this step looks wrong.
What if [tex]cos \theta + 1 = 0[/tex]? And you cannot divide both sides by 0!
The better way is to factor out [tex]cos \theta + 1[/tex], like this:
[tex]2 \sin\theta(\cos\theta + 1) -(\cos\theta + 1) = 0[/tex]
[tex]\Leftrightarrow (\cos \theta + 1)(2 \sin\theta - 1) = 0[/tex]
Now if the product of them is 0, then either [tex]\cos \theta + 1 = 0[/tex] or [tex]2 \sin\theta - 1 = 0[/tex], right?
Can you go from here? :)
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@ topsquark, it's not correct, bud. :smile:

Oh, I see your point. That slipped by me. Sorry. Good catch, VeitDao29!

-Dan
 
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Thanks for the help VietDao. Can you please show me how you got [tex]\ (\cos \theta + 1)(2 \sin\theta - 1) = 0\[/tex]? I can’t seem to figure out exactly how you did that.
 
Oh wait, nevermind, I see how you got that. Duh.

So, from there I would get:

[tex]\cos \theta + 1 = 0[/tex]

[tex]\cos \theta = -1[/tex]

[tex]\theta = \pi[/tex]

OR

[tex]2 \sin\theta - 1 = 0[/tex]

[tex]\sin\theta= \frac{1}{2}[/tex]

[tex]\theta = \frac{\pi}{6}[/tex], [tex]\theta = \frac{5\pi}{6}[/tex]
 
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Looks right to me, what's your limits?
 
By limits, do you mean, for example [tex](0, 2\pi)[/tex]?

If that's the case, the question didn't impose any limits, so I suppose the correct answer would be [tex]\theta= (\pi+k2\pi,\ \frac{\pi}{6}+k2\pi\ or, \frac{5\pi}{6}+k2\pi)[/tex].
 
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Yeah that's what I meant.

When ever I have solved trig equations I am required to find a quantative answer for [itex]\theta[/itex], but if your tutor is happy with you leaving it in terms of [itex]k[/itex] that's all that matter. :smile:
 
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Thanks for your Help!
 

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