Verifying Solutions of u_t-u_{xx}=0

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The discussion revolves around verifying solutions to the partial differential equation \( u_t - u_{xx} = 0 \) with specified initial and boundary conditions. The original poster presents a function \( u(x,t) \) and explores the symmetry \( u(x,t) = u(2-x,t) \) as a potential solution.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the symmetry \( u(x,t) = u(2-x,t) \) and question how to verify this relationship against the initial and boundary conditions. There is confusion regarding the calculations and substitutions involved, particularly around the expression \( u(2-x,0) \) and its relation to the initial condition.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the verification process and the use of substitutions. Some have attempted to clarify their reasoning and calculations, while others express confusion about the steps taken. There is no explicit consensus on the verification method yet, but the discussion is ongoing and appears to be productive.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem's initial and boundary conditions, and there is a focus on understanding the implications of the symmetry in the context of the given equation.

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Given this equation:

[tex] u_t-u_{xx}=0 [/tex]
[tex] u(x,0)=x(2-x) <br /> x\in[0,2][/tex]
[tex] u(0,t)=u(2,t)=0 <br /> t\in[0,2][/tex]

Verify that u(x,t)=u(2-x,t) is a solution.

To do this would I just show that:

u(0,t)=u(2,t)
u(2-x,0)=(2-x) but off by a scalar.
 
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Hi chaotixmonjuish! :wink:
chaotixmonjuish said:
… u(2-x,0)=(2-x) but off by a scalar.

I'm confused :confused:

u(2-x,0) = (2-x)(2-(2-x)) = … ? :smile:
 
What do you mean by "u(x,t)= u(2-x,t)"? You certainly do NOT know that u(2-x,0)= 2-x, only that u(2-x,0)= u(0,x)
 
Oh geeze, so how do I verify this?
 
I got u(2-x(2-x),0)=...=u(x^2,0)
 
chaotixmonjuish said:
I got u(2-x(2-x),0)=...=u(x^2,0)

uhh? :confused:

2 - (2 - x) = x.
 
Whoops, I meant this:

[tex] u(x,t)=u(2-x,t)[/tex]
[tex] u(x,0)=u(2-x)[/tex]
[tex] u(x,0)=(2-x)(2-(2-x))[/tex]
[tex] u(x,0)=x(2-x)[/tex]
This satisifies the initial condition.
 
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Hi chaotixmonjuish! :smile:

(erm :redface: … why bother with LaTeX when you could just have typed it as text? :wink:)
chaotixmonjuish said:
Whoops, I meant this:

[tex] u(x,t)=u(2-x,t)[/tex]
[tex] u(x,0)=u(2-x)[/tex]
[tex] u(x,0)=(2-x)(2-(2-x))[/tex]
[tex] u(x,0)=x(2-x)[/tex]
This satisifies the initial condition.

Yup … that nails the middle condition …

and the third one is easy …

now how about ut - uxx = 0 ? :smile:
 
I'm having problems just getting why we only used 2-x in the substitution
 
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chaotixmonjuish said:
I'm having problems just getting why we only used 2-x in the substitution

Because we were seeing what happens if u(x,t) = u(2-x,t),

and for that we needed to know what u(2-x,t) is for t = 0, ie u(2-x,0). :wink:
 
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So it that why we can pop a 2-x in for u?
 
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hi chaotixmonjuish ,, can you tell me what is the chapter name of these questions ? they look cool :)
 
  • #13
chaotixmonjuish said:
So it that why we can pop a 2-x in for u?
You aren't putting 2-x in for u, you are replacing one of the variables in u with 2-x. And, of course, you can replace a variable in a function with anything!
 

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