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The discussion revolves around verifying Stokes' theorem for different vector fields and corresponding curves and surfaces. The original poster presents multiple cases involving vector fields and asks for assistance in understanding the verification process.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need to calculate both sides of Stokes' theorem and question the understanding of line integrals and the curl of a vector. There are inquiries about the meaning of symbols in the theorem and the relationship between the components involved.

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Some participants have expressed confusion regarding the concepts involved, particularly in relation to the surface integral and the meaning of the symbols. Guidance has been offered to clarify these concepts, and one participant indicates they have resolved their confusion.

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There is mention of a figure that illustrates the curves and surfaces involved, which may be critical for understanding the problem. The original poster has indicated a struggle with the problem over an extended period, suggesting a challenging context for the homework assignment.

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Homework Statement


Verify Stokes' theorem
c F • t ds = ∫∫s n ∇ × F dS
in each of the following cases:

(a) F=i z2 + j y2
C, the square of side 1 lying in the x,z-plane and directed as shown
S, the five squares S1, S2, S3, S4, S5 as shown in the figure.

(b) F = iy + jz + kx
C, the three quarter circle arcs C1, C2, and C3 directed as shown in the figure.
S, the octant of the sphere x2 + y2 + z2 = 1 enclosed by the three arcs.

(c) F = iy - jx + kz
C, the circle of radius R lying in the xy-plae, centered at (0,0,0) and directed as shown in the figure.
S, the curved upper surfaces of the cylinder of radius R and height h.

Homework Equations


c F • t ds = ∫∫s n ∇ × F dS Stokes' theorem

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I have been staring at this problem for two weeks and every time I think i get it, i find out I'm wrong. Please help!
 

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You need to calculate both sides of the equation and verify that you get the same thing.
Do you understand line integrals?
Do you know how to take the curl of a vector?
More importantly, the left and right sides of the equation tell you to execute a series of operations. Can you figure out what these are?
Start with the line integral on the left side. What do the symbols stand for?
 
i understand how to take the curl, i just don't understand the concept of taking one over the surfaces
 
joe kutil said:
i understand how to take the curl, i just don't understand the concept of taking one over the surfaces
Do you understand the meaning of all the symbols in ∫∫s n ∇ × F dS in terms of a picture?
Specifically
1. What does n represent?
2. What does S represent?
3. What is the relation between n and S?
Also note that the correct expression for the integrand is ##\hat{n} \cdot \vec{\nabla}\times \vec{F}dS.## The "dot" between n and ∇ × F is important and means more than "times".

If you don't know the answers to the three questions, please find out.
 
Thank you I figured it out
 
joe kutil said:
Thank you I figured it out
Great! Are you good to go with the line integral too?
 

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