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The discussion revolves around determining the points along an axis where the electric potential is zero due to two point charges: a +3.0 nC charge at x=0 cm and a -1.0 nC charge at x=4 cm. Participants are exploring the implications of their calculations and the behavior of electric potential in different regions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss their attempts to find points where the electric potential is zero, considering both regions between the charges and extending into negative coordinates. They raise questions about the correct use of distance variables in their equations, particularly in negative zones.

Discussion Status

The conversation reflects ongoing confusion regarding the algebraic manipulation of the potential equation and the interpretation of results. Some participants have reached different conclusions about the values of p, indicating a lack of consensus on the correct approach or interpretation of the results.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of using magnitudes versus signed distances in their calculations, which affects their understanding of the electric potential in different regions. There is also mention of algebraic errors that may be contributing to the confusion.

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Very simply "find potential where its zero" question

Homework Statement



A +3.0 nC char age is at x= 0cm and a -1 nC charge is at x= 4cm. At what point or points on the axis is the electric potential zero?

Homework Equations



V= [tex]\frac{kQ}{r}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



i have solved the question, first i tried two places, between the two charges, and after the second charge.

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i solved for x= 3cm and x= 6cm.

now the problem is what is i want to check in the negative zone?

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now is in
the formula v1+v2 =0

for r1, do i use r1= -p and r2 = 4-p, i am confused about doing it in the negative zone, do i just use the magnitude, if only magnitude, it would be r1=p and r2=4+p, which do i use?
 
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Brown Arrow said:
for r1, do i use r1= -p and r2 = -4-p, i am confused about doing it in the negative zone, do i just use the magnitude, if only magnitude, it would be r1=p and r2=4+p, which do i use?

Other than the underlined [ corrected ] part, both are actually the same. You just multiplied both sides by -1.

So you're fine either way.
 


thrill3rnit3 said:
Other than the underlined [ corrected ] part, both are actually the same. You just multiplied both sides by -1.

So you're fine either way.

i did it, r1=p and r2= 4+p, i get p=6cm, now when i go back and plug in p=6 in the equation it does not satisfy, but =-6cm works, but the answer from solving the equation is p=6cm not p=-6cm, i am confused, help please.0 = [tex]\frac{k(3nC)}{P}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{k(-1nC)}{4+P}[/tex]
 


Brown Arrow said:
i did it, r1=p and r2= 4+p, i get p=6cm, now when i go back and plug in p=6 in the equation it does not satisfy, but =-6cm works, but the answer from solving the equation is p=6cm not p=-6cm, i am confused, help please.0 = [tex]\frac{k(3nC)}{P}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{k(-1nC)}{4+P}[/tex]

I solved for p using the above equation and got p= -6

Maybe something wrong with your algebra?

even with r1= -p and r2= -4-p, I still get p= -6
 

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