Viewing Miller's Planet from Earth Time: Time Dilation Mystery

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of time dilation as depicted in the movie Interstellar, specifically regarding the observation of people on Miller's planet from a spaceship in Earth's time frame. Participants explore the implications of time dilation on perceived motion and aging, considering both gravitational and relative motion effects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how people on Miller's planet would appear when viewed from a spaceship, particularly regarding their motion and aging relative to observers on Earth.
  • Another participant asserts that people on Miller's planet would appear to move slowly and that the light from them would be red-shifted.
  • It is proposed that individuals on Miller's planet would perceive Rom's actions as slow, while Rom would see Cooper's actions as slower, introducing complexity due to gravitational time dilation effects.
  • A later reply suggests that if only gravitational time dilation is considered, Rom would actually see Cooper's actions running more quickly, but acknowledges that the differences in orbital speeds complicate the apparent clock rates.
  • One participant notes the need for detailed calculations to fully understand the interactions between these effects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how time dilation affects the perception of motion and aging, indicating that there is no consensus on the specifics of these effects.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of time dilation, including the interplay between gravitational effects and relative motion, but does not resolve the mathematical details or assumptions involved.

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I am sure everyone has seen Interstellar movie. In the movie, Cooper proposes to orbit around Gargantua, parallel to Miller's planet, to escape from the time dilation. One hour in Miller's planet is equal seven years in Earth's time. My question is, what would it look like, if we happen to view people on Miller's planet through a giant telescope from the spaceship? The spaceship is Earth's time and the miller planet is time-dilated. Would they appear to move slow? Or no difference at all? If no difference at all, then how come Cooper didn't age but Rom ages by 23 years?
 
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fayaazhussain said:
Would they appear to move slow?
Yes, and the light would be red-shifted.
 
The people on Millera planet will see that Roms actions are slow ,as you said.And the Rom will see Cooper actions more slow.
 
Quarlep said:
And the Rom will see Cooper actions more slow.

Not based on gravitational time dilation. Cooper is at a higher altitude, so Rom will see his actions running more quickly, if we only take gravitational time dilation into account.

However, there will also be a difference in orbital speeds between the two, which makes the apparent clock rate of Cooper as seen by Rom more complicated. On average, Rom will see Cooper's clock running faster, but there may be portions of their respective orbits where Rom does see Cooper's clock running slower for some period. I have not done the detailed calculations.
 

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