Village in Peru Whitewashes Mountain to Restore Snow | CNN

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around a village in Peru that has whitewashed a mountain in an attempt to restore snow. Participants explore the feasibility and implications of this approach, considering both its potential effectiveness and environmental consequences.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a whitewashed surface could absorb less solar infrared energy, potentially keeping the area cooler.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the project, questioning the environmental impact and the practicality of using alkaline materials like Calcium hydroxide and soap.
  • Another participant raises concerns about the necessity of moisture for snow formation, arguing that simply lowering albedo may not be sufficient without a reliable moisture source.
  • A participant humorously proposes a railway between Peru and Connecticut, linking it to the snow restoration effort.
  • Some participants express differing opinions on whether the whitewashing might work, with one voting in favor and another deeming it "crazy."
  • There is a suggestion that if the method works, further questions would arise regarding the extent of whitewashing needed and the possibility of snow growth reversal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness or appropriateness of the whitewashing method, with multiple competing views and concerns expressed throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions, such as the environmental impact of the materials used and the necessity of moisture for snow formation, which remain unresolved.

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A whitewashed surface will absorb less solar infared energy, so will remain cooler...
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
A village in Peru whitewashes a mountain to restore snow. What do you think? Crazy or might it work?
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/world/2011/11/28/romo-peru-glacier-whitewash.cnn

I think someone should build a railway between Peru and Connecticut.

Connecticut gets lots of snow I've found out today.

(ps. my vote is on crazy... but it did spark in my mind a reason why a bunch of Egyptians a few years back would want to build artificial mountains clad in white limestone...)
 
Interesting! :smile:

I vote that it might work.
(Perhaps this thread should be a poll?)

If it works, the question would be how much they would have to whitewash.
And whether a reversal would start growing.
 
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So a coating of Calcium hydroxide, chalk and soap? Just what do these guys think these poor folks wil do with the alkaline soapy water - bathe in it? I saw no consideration of the environmental impact Ignorant western dilletantes playing at science. Oh well - only 500 folks left and maybe they're getting paid to pollute their mountain.
 
The video won't appear here. So I can't verify the story.
Anyway, there has been a lot of white washing going on but that probably may have ended with very recent devellopments.

Anyway, you can attempt to lower albedo and decrease absorption, cooling the surface, but ultimately you need moisture to get snow and mountains tend to be cold enough already. So what about the moisture source?
 

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