Virtual Particles: What is Known & Effects on Spacetime, Matter, Light

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of virtual particles, particularly focusing on their properties, implications for spacetime, matter, and light, as well as their theoretical status and experimental verification. Participants explore various aspects of virtual particles, including their creation and annihilation, their role in vacuum energy, and their relevance in phenomena like Hawking radiation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the commonly held belief that virtual particles are created and destroyed quickly, seeking further information on their frequency, size, and effects on spacetime and light.
  • Another participant challenges the notion that reactive energy in the near field of antennas is composed of virtual photons, asserting that this claim is incorrect.
  • It is noted that virtual particles are theoretical constructs that have not been experimentally verified, with some participants expressing confusion about their role in near field antenna radiation.
  • A participant discusses vacuum energy as a background energy in space, linking it to virtual particles and the energy-time uncertainty principle, while mentioning the Casimir effect and its ambiguous relation to vacuum energy.
  • Hawking radiation is mentioned as a phenomenon potentially involving virtual particles, although it is clarified that Hawking's mathematical framework does not explicitly rely on them.
  • Another participant suggests using the forum's search function to find existing threads on virtual particles, indicating a wealth of prior discussions on their usefulness and theoretical implications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature and implications of virtual particles, with no consensus reached on their role in various physical phenomena or their theoretical validity.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about virtual particles and their effects remain unresolved, with participants highlighting the lack of experimental verification and the dependence on theoretical constructs. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the interpretation of vacuum energy and its relationship to virtual particles.

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All I ever hear about Feynman’s virtual particles is that they are created then destroy each other in a short period of time. I was wondering what else we know about these particles? How often is this occurring? How big are these particles? What if any affects do these particles have on spacetime, matter, and light? Do these particles on exist in the vacuum of space? Thanks
 
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Ignore the part about reactive energy in the near field of an antenna being composed of virtual photons. That's all wrong.

The electrostatic (DC) fields are virtual photons but the AC near fields are real photons.
 
In addition to the reference mentioned above:

Virtual particles are theoretical and have never been observed [not experimentally verified].
For some reason I haven't figured out, people think virtual photons play a part in near field antenna radiation.

Here is a closely realated article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy


I'll excerpt just a few key ideas:

Vacuum energy is an underlying background energy that exists in space even when the space is devoid of matter (free space). The concept of vacuum energy has been deduced from the concept of virtual particles, which is itself derived from the energy-time uncertainty principle...Vacuum energy can also be thought of in terms of virtual particles (also known as vacuum fluctuations) which are created and destroyed out of the vacuum. These particles are always created out of the vacuum in particle-antiparticle pairs, which shortly annihilate each other and disappear. However, these particles and antiparticles may interact with others before disappearing, a process which can be mapped using Feynman diagrams. (but these virtual particles are not observable) ...the Casimir effect is no certain proof for vacuum energy since it can also be explained without this theory.[4]

Other predictions are harder to verify. Vacuum fluctuations are always created as particle/antiparticle pairs. The creation of these virtual particles near the event horizon of a black hole has been hypothesized by physicist Stephen Hawking to be a mechanism for the eventual "evaporation" of black holes.


...Hawking Radiation from another source...(also not directly observable)

http://www.physics.ucdavis.edu/Text/Carlip.html#Hawkrad
(I know Wikipedia also discusses Hawking Radiation)

Hawking's mathematical development of Hawking Radiation does not explicitly involve virtual particles; he used virtual particles as an intuitive description of how radiation might originate.
 
please use the search function here in the forum; there are many threads regarding virtual particles and both their usefulness and uselessness
 
Antiphon:

Ignore the part about reactive energy in the near field of an antenna being composed of virtual photons. That's all wrong.


Thanks...

As I posted already, I never could make sense of virtual photons there...have you any
source...especially anything I can read online..
 

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