Visualizing the space and structure described by a metric

In summary, the geometry involved changes the coordinates system, but the space remains 3D Euclidean.
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Whitehole
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I need help to visualize the geometry involved here,

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How can I visualize the last paragraph? Why is the surface of fixed r now an ellipsoid? Also for r = 0, it is already a disk? I've tried searching for the geometry of these but I can't find any image of the geometry that I can just stare at and understand already what the paragraph meant. Anybody can give me insights?
 
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Bear in mind that these machinations do not change the space, which remains 3D Euclidean. All they change is the coordinate system, so that the surfaces defined by fixing a coordinate change.
In spherical coordinates in flat space the surfaces of fixed coordinates are:
- spheres centred on the origin for fixed ##r##
- cones around the z axis with tip at the origin, for fixed ##\theta##
- half planes emanating from the z axis, for fixed ##\phi##

The change above alters the first of these so that the spheres become ellipsoids. You can see that must be the case because of the equations:
$$x=f\sin\theta\cos\phi$$
$$y=f\sin\theta\sin\phi$$
$$z=r\sin\theta\cos\phi$$
If ##f=r## these are the equations of a sphere of radius ##r##. If ##a\neq 0## than ##f=\sqrt{a^2+r^2}>r## so the horizontal dimensions ##x,y## are expanded while keeping the vertical dimension ##z## constant. That squashes the sphere into an oblate spheroid.
 
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andrewkirk said:
Bear in mind that these machinations do not change the space, which remains 3D Euclidean. All they change is the coordinate system, so that the surfaces defined by fixing a coordinate change.
In spherical coordinates in flat space the surfaces of fixed coordinates are:
- spheres centred on the origin for fixed ##r##
- cones around the z axis with tip at the origin, for fixed ##\theta##
- half planes emanating from the z axis, for fixed ##\phi##

The change above alters the first of these so that the spheres become ellipsoids. You can see that must be the case because of the equations:
$$x=f\sin\theta\cos\phi$$
$$y=f\sin\theta\sin\phi$$
$$z=r\sin\theta\cos\phi$$
If ##f=r## these are the equations of a sphere of radius ##r##. If ##a\neq 0## than ##f=\sqrt{a^2+r^2}>r## so the horizontal dimensions ##x,y## are expanded while keeping the vertical dimension ##z## constant. That squashes the sphere into an oblate spheroid.
How can ##a## only alter the horizontal dimensions, ##r## is a 3-d coordinate here so it should affect the z component if it were to change right? Also, is the term squashed sphere accurate? Because squashed means that the z coordinate is decreasing and eventually flat, correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Whitehole said:
How can a only alter the horizontal dimensions, r is a 3-d coordinate here so it should affect the z component if it were to change right?
No. I think you are confusing yourself by using the term '3D coordinate'. Look at the formulas for x, y and z. You can see that only the x and y formulas use f, which depends on a. z uses r instead of f, and hence has no dependence on a.
Whitehole said:
squashed means that the z coordinate is decreasing and eventually flat, correct me if I'm wrong.
No, squashed doesn't mean having zero height. It just means having less height than it had previously.
 
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andrewkirk said:
No. I think you are confusing yourself by using the term '3D coordinate'. Look at the formulas for x, y and z. You can see that only the x and y formulas use f, which depends on a. z uses r instead of f, and hence has no dependence on a.

No, squashed doesn't mean having zero height. It just means having less height than it had previously.
Now I got it, I didn't carefully saw the "fixed r". Also, yes, specifically squashed means having less height than it had previously. For the last part, how can ##θ## play the role of the radial variable if it is already flat? ##φ## sweeps out the disk from 0 to 2π. But ##θ## . . .
 
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Think about what it looks like when you view an ant crawling about on the Northern hemisphere of an origin-centred sphere from above it on the z axis, eg viewing the unit sphere from the point (0,0,10).
Changes in the ant's ##\theta##, keeping ##r## and ##\phi## constant, will look like increases or decreases in radius.
Squashing the sphere down to absolutely flat, which is what the set r=0 is, looks the same as viewing a 'fully inflated' sphere from above.
 
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andrewkirk said:
Think about what it looks like when you view an ant crawling about on the Northern hemisphere of an origin-centred sphere from above it on the z axis, eg viewing the unit sphere from the point (0,0,10).
Changes in the ant's ##\theta##, keeping ##r## and ##\phi## constant, will look like increases or decreases in radius.
Squashing the sphere down to absolutely flat, which is what the set r=0 is, looks the same as viewing a 'fully inflated' sphere from above.
Very nice example. Thanks a lot for helping me visualize all this!
 

1. What is visualizing the space and structure described by a metric?

Visualizing the space and structure described by a metric is the process of creating a visual representation of a mathematical concept known as a metric, which describes the distance between points in a space.

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Visualizing the space and structure described by a metric is important because it allows us to better understand and analyze the properties and relationships within a space. It also helps us to make predictions and draw conclusions based on the information provided by the metric.

3. How is the space and structure described by a metric visualized?

The space and structure described by a metric is typically visualized using geometric shapes, such as lines, curves, and surfaces, to represent the points and distances within the space. This can be done through drawings, diagrams, or computer-generated images.

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