Volcano in mars ejects rocks. Straight line motion

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the height to which rocks can be ejected from a volcano on Mars compared to Earth, given the different gravitational accelerations on both planets. The problem requires understanding the equations of motion under gravity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of kinematic equations to determine the maximum height of ejected rocks on Mars and Earth. There is a focus on the ratio of gravitational accelerations and how it affects the height calculations. Questions arise regarding when to take the ratio of heights and the reasoning behind it.

Discussion Status

Participants have engaged in exploring the relationships between the heights on Mars and Earth, with some providing insights into the cancellation of terms when calculating the ratio of gravitational forces. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding the timing of taking ratios, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that air resistance can be neglected and are focused on the gravitational effects on the ejected heights. The specific values for gravitational acceleration on both planets are noted as part of the problem context.

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Homework Statement



A certain volcano on Earth can eject rocks vertically to a maximum height .

Part A: How high (in terms of H ) would these rocks go if a volcano on Mars ejected them with the same initial velocity? The acceleration due to gravity on Mars is 3.71 m/s^2 , and you can neglect air resistance on both planets.


Homework Equations



y=yo + vo*t + 1/2 *g*t^(2)

vy=vo + g*t

The Attempt at a Solution



y=yo + vo*t - 1/2 *g*t^(2)


vy=vo + g*t
0=vo-g(mars)*t

t=vo/g
substitute this in y=yo + vo*t - 1/2 *g*t^(2)

to get y=1/2 * vo^(2)/g

After this I am stuck. The answer is 2.64H or 2.64Y


 
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Toranc3 said:

Homework Statement



A certain volcano on Earth can eject rocks vertically to a maximum height .

Part A: How high (in terms of H ) would these rocks go if a volcano on Mars ejected them with the same initial velocity? The acceleration due to gravity on Mars is 3.71 m/s^2 , and you can neglect air resistance on both planets.


Homework Equations



y=yo + vo*t + 1/2 *g*t^(2)

vy=vo + g*t

The Attempt at a Solution



y=yo + vo*t - 1/2 *g*t^(2)


vy=vo + g*t
0=vo-g(mars)*t

t=vo/g
substitute this in y=yo + vo*t - 1/2 *g*t^(2)

to get y=1/2 * vo^(2)/g

After this I am stuck. The answer is 2.64H or 2.64Y

g on Earth is 9.8m/s^2. What's the ratio of y=1/2 * vo^(2)/g between Mars and Earth?
 
Dick said:
g on Earth is 9.8m/s^2. What's the ratio of y=1/2 * vo^(2)/g between Mars and Earth?

Ah I see now thanks. However how do you know when to take the ratio? I did not even think about that.
 
Toranc3 said:
Ah I see now thanks. However how do you know when to take the ratio? I did not even think about that.

The height on Earth is H=(1/2)v0^2/(9.8m/s^2). The height on Mars will be (1/2)v0^2/(3.71m/s^2). If you divide the two then everything will cancel except for the ratio of the two values of g.
 
Dick said:
The height on Earth is H=(1/2)v0^2/(9.8m/s^2). The height on Mars will be (1/2)v0^2/(3.71m/s^2). If you divide the two then everything will cancel except for the ratio of the two values of g.

Got it and thank you.
 

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