Voltage across an inductor after flipping a switch

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of voltage and current in an LR circuit when a switch is flipped, particularly focusing on the inductor's response and the energy considerations involved. Participants are exploring the implications of instantaneous changes in voltage and current, as well as the conservation of energy in the circuit.

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  • Participants are questioning why the voltage across the inductor is not zero immediately after the switch is flipped, despite the initial conditions. They are also discussing the nature of energy in the circuit and whether it can change instantaneously.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between voltage, current, and energy in the circuit. Some participants have offered insights into the behavior of voltage and current during switching events, while others are probing deeper into the implications of energy conservation and its continuity in the circuit.

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Participants are considering the assumption that energy cannot change instantaneously and are discussing the implications of this assumption on the behavior of the circuit components. There is also a focus on the role of inductance in affecting current changes.

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In the circuit below the initial charge of the capacitor is Q. First, we shut S1 (S2 remains open) and wait for the first time in which the energy of the capacitor is minimal.
Then, we shut S2 and open S1 simultaneously. What is the voltage on the inductor right after the change?
Relevant Equations
ω=1/sqrt(LC)
I(t)=-ωQsin(ωt)
When the energy of the capacitor is minimal it has no charge therefore the voltage on it is 0. That means that the voltage on the inductor is 0 as well at the moment.
The part that confuses me is: why isn't the correct answer 0? How can a voltage change in a single moment?
Furthermore I am confused because in the solution, they used the fact that the current in the inductor before the change was Q/sqrt(LC) and therefore got the answer QR/sqrt(LC) . Why can the voltage shift like that but the current can not? How can we know what will remain constant (for a moment, in this case the current), and what may change instantly?
 

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It's ok for voltage and current to change suddenly in a circuit. A simple example is a circuit with a battery, switch and resistor. When the switch is closed, there is suddenly a voltage across the resistor and a current through the resistor. (Every circuit is going to have some inductance which prevents the current from changing truly instantaneously. But, if the inductance is very small, the current can change essentially instantaneously.)

At the moment the switching occurs in your circuit, is there any energy in the circuit? Can the energy change suddenly?
 
TSny said:
It's ok for voltage and current to change suddenly in a circuit. A simple example is a circuit with a battery, switch and resistor. When the switch is closed, there is suddenly a voltage across the resistor and a current through the resistor. (Every circuit is going to have some inductance which prevents the current from changing truly instantaneously. But, if the inductance is very small, the current can change essentially instantaneously.)

At the moment the switching occurs in your circuit, is there any energy in the circuit? Can the energy change suddenly?
I figured it will have something to do with energy. As far as I know energy cannot change instantly. The energy is 0.5LI^2, therefore I cannot change suddenly?
 
Eitan Levy said:
I figured it will have something to do with energy. As far as I know energy cannot change instantly. The energy is 0.5LI^2, therefore I cannot change suddenly?
Yes. Just before the switching, the inductor has the energy ##\frac 1 2 L I^2##. This energy must still be in the LR circuit after the switching (unless the energy was dissipated in sparking in the switches, which we assume doesn't happen.)
 
TSny said:
Yes. Just before the switching, the inductor has the energy ##\frac 1 2 L I^2##. This energy must still be in the LR circuit after the switching (unless the energy was dissipated in sparking in the switches, which we assume doesn't happen.)

One question about this - does the energy must be continuous in the entire circuit or in the inductor itself? Can the energy completely "disappear" from the inductor instantly, while moving somewhere else?
 
Eitan Levy said:
Can the energy completely "disappear" from the inductor instantly, while moving somewhere else?
I don’t believe that this is possible.
 
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