Voltage, capacity and the strength of electric field of a capacitor

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The discussion revolves around a capacitor problem involving its capacity, voltage, and electric field strength. The original poster presents a scenario with specific values for capacitance, voltage, and plate separation, and poses questions about how these values change under different conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationships between charge, voltage, and capacitance, referencing relevant equations. There is confusion regarding how changes in distance and voltage affect these quantities, particularly in parts c) and d) of the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have attempted to clarify the relationships between the variables, while others express uncertainty about the implications of the voltage changes and the effects of doubling the distance. There is no clear consensus on the interpretations of the problem, and multiple viewpoints are being explored.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of the problem's conditions, particularly regarding how the introduction of an additional voltage supply affects the overall voltage and charge of the capacitor. There is also mention of discrepancies between personal calculations and textbook answers.

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Homework Statement



So basically we're given a capacitor, or 2 metal plates, which has the capacity of 400 pikofarads (4*10^-10 F), a voltage of 200 V, and the distance between the two plates is 2 mm (2*10^-3 m).

a) Find the charge of a plate.
b) The strength of the electric field.
c) How does the capacity, voltage and the strength of the electric field change, when the distance between the 2 plates is doubled and the system is given a 100 V voltage supply?
d) How do they change, when the 100 V supply is now removed and the distance is yet once again doubled?

Homework Equations



E=U/d - (strength of the electric field = voltage / distance)
C=q/U - (capacity = charge / voltage)
C=ε0εS/d - (capacity = epsilon-0*epsilon*area / distance)

The Attempt at a Solution



a) q=U*C => 8*10^-8 coulombs
b) E=U/d => 10^5 V/m

But points c) and d) are which confuse me. My answers don't match the ones in the book.

Thanks in advance !
 
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Use your equations. If d is doubled, then C=eo*S/d is halved. q = U*C, where both U and C have been halved, so it's one-fourth of the original value (I'm assuming you miswrote c) and it asked for the charge, not the given 100V voltage:))

Similarly you should get the rest of the answers. Hope this helped you start out.
 
If I remember correctly, the book gave answers to c) as follows:
U remains the same, E and C are halved.

Finding C isn't a problem, as you stated above. But finding U confuses me. As it is given the extra 100 V supply, it could remain the same when the original value halves. But how do we know its halves? And why does the charge change?
E=U/d, so it is halved when U stays the same (with the extra voltage supply). But again, why is the original value of U halved?

Thanks in advance,
fawk3s
 
In the first situation the capacitor had some charge on it, and so it's voltage happened to be 200V. In the second, you put it on 100V, and it's charge changed according to that. However I think I'm misunderstanding something, because you said the answer to c) was that U remains the same, 200V. I don't see how that can be if you put it on 100V...
 
I don't think its meant that you put it on 100 V. I think it means that after doubling the distance, the 100 volts are added extra to the voltage. IF I understood correctly.

So that would mean that the original voltage would have to be 100 V. And when adding the 100 extra volts, it becomes 200 V, aka the same as in the first situation.
But the problem is, I can't really figure out why/how is the original voltage halved?

Thanks in advance,
fawk3s
 
Anybody got any ideas? Since the exercise seems really easy, its bugging me now.
If anybody could point out the flaw in my logic, I'd really appreciate it.
 
Anybody, please? Would be nice to have the solution by tomorrow.
 
I hate bumping this, but I really need it in a couple of hours. So if anybody's got any ideas, I'd be grateful if you'd share them.
 
It still isn't solved. So I'd bump it again. If you got any ideas, please share !
 
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