Volume bounded by 3 surfaces, did I do this correctly?

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a solid bounded by specific surfaces using cylindrical coordinates. The initial approach involved converting equations and setting up a triple integral, but it was pointed out that the bounds for r depend on θ, specifically that r is bounded between 0 and 1 - sin(θ). After some algebra, it was confirmed that the correct volume integral should be evaluated with these new bounds, leading to a final volume of 23/4 π. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly determining the limits of integration when dealing with polar coordinates. Understanding these bounds is crucial for accurately calculating the volume of the solid.
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Homework Statement


Find the volume of the solid bounded by the surfaces
## (x^2 + y^2 + y)^2 = x^2 + y^2 ##
##x + y + z = 3 ##
and ##z = 0##

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I begin by converting to polar coordinates to do a cylindrical integration with 3 variables.

## (x^2 + y^2 + y)^2 = x^2 + y^2 ## becomes ##r^4 + 2r^3\sin\theta + r^2\sin\theta = r^2##

##x + y + z = 3 ## becomes ##z = 3 - r\cos\theta - r\sin\theta##

I graphed the first equation and found that 2 is the maximum value of r. Now I write a triple integral in cylindrical coordinates.

$$V = \iiint_E f(r\cos\theta,r\sin\theta,z) r\,dz\,dr\,d\theta$$

then
$$\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{2}\int_{0}^{3-r\cos\theta-r\sin\theta}r\,dzdrd\theta$$
then
$$\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{2}3r-r^2\cos\theta-r^2\sin\theta\,drd\theta$$
then
$$\int_{0}^{2\pi}6-\frac{8}{3} \cos\theta-\frac{8}{3} \sin\theta\,d\theta$$
which then becomes
$$[12\pi + \frac{8}{3}] - [-\frac{8}{3}]$$
final answer
$$12\pi + \frac{16}{3}$$

I just want to know if what I did makes sense and if this is the correct answer.

Thanks in advance!
 
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You need to take into account that r depends on theta, and as such you can't simply integrate it from 0 to 2 like you would with a cylinder of constant radius.

After a bit of algebra you should find that r is bounded between 0 and 1-sinθ, so the integral you want to evaluate is:

\int_0^{2\pi} \int _0^{1-sin\theta} \int_0^{3-rcos\theta-rsin\theta} rdzdrd\thetawhich I found to be 23/4 pi, but you may want to double check that for yourself.
 
Ah, thank you so much! I knew it felt too easy ?:)
 
Can you help me understand how you found that r is bounded by 1-sinθ and 0?
 
So you have (x^2+y^2+y)^2 = x^2+y^2.

After converting to cylindrical coordinate and a bit of rearranging you have
r^2 + r(sin\theta-1) = 0

Solving for r using the quadratic formula will give you r = 0 and r = 1-sinθ.
 
jbstemp said:
So you have (x^2+y^2+y)^2 = x^2+y^2.

After converting to cylindrical coordinate and a bit of rearranging you have
r^2 + r(sin\theta-1) = 0

Solving for r using the quadratic formula will give you r = 0 and r = 1-sinθ.
Surely, you would just factor out an ##r## giving ##r(r+(\sin\theta-1))=0## instead of using the quadratic formula.

But that isn't the whole story. What you actually get upon changing to polar coordinates is$$
r^4 + 2r^3\sin\theta+\sin^2\theta = r^2$$Upon dividing out ##r^2## and losing the trivial ##r=0##:$$
r^2+2r\sin\theta + \sin^2\theta = 1$$ $$
(r+\sin\theta)^2-1=0$$ $$
(r+\sin\theta + 1)(r+\sin\theta -1) = 0$$So you actually get two solutions: ##r = \pm 1 - \sin\theta##. It turns out they both give the same cardioid but traced differently.
 

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