Volume enclosed by two paraboloids

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume enclosed by two paraboloids defined by the equations z=16[x²+y²] and z=8-16[x²+y²]. Participants are exploring the setup of a triple integral to find this volume, while questioning the legitimacy of their approach and the limits of integration.

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  • Participants discuss setting up a triple integral and the logic behind choosing limits for the radial component r. There is uncertainty about whether to use two integrals for r and how to determine the upper limit based on the intersection of the two functions.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the limits of integration and the nature of the volume being calculated. Some guidance has been offered regarding the lower limit for r and the intersection point of the paraboloids, but there remains some ambiguity about the approach to take with the integrals.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of cylindrical coordinates and the implications of integrating through two different functions. There is a mention of the need to consider the nature of the volume and the potential for using horizontal slices as an alternative approach.

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Hello,

This is a question in which I'm getting the right answer, I just want to make sure what I'm doing its legitimate, as it seems a bit off to me.

The volume enclosed by
[tex]z=16[x^{2}+y^{2}], z=8-16[x^{2}+y^{2}][/tex]

I set my triple integral up as follows:
[tex]\int^{?r}_{?r}\int^{2\pi}_{0}\int^{8-16r^{2}}_{16r^{2}} r dz d\vartheta dr[/tex]

So, my height is the bottom function to the upper, and obviously completing a full circle.
Now here is what I'm unsure about.

I know I need to either do two integrals for r and add them together 0 to 1 and 0 to -1,
or -1 to 1 so that I'm only left with 2/pi (the answer) but what is the logic behind getting the limits for r?

Thanks in advance
 
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Hello Damascus Road! :smile:
Damascus Road said:
Now here is what I'm unsure about.

I know I need to either do two integrals for r and add them together 0 to 1 and 0 to -1,
or -1 to 1 so that I'm only left with 2/pi (the answer) but what is the logic behind getting the limits for r?

I don't understand what your two integrals for r are :confused:

r cannot be negative.

You're taking all possible cylindrical slices, so they're from r = … to … ?

(though it might be easier to take horizontal slices, from z = … to … )
 
That's a good start.
It should be obvious that the origin, r=0, is contained in the volume so that is your lower limit on r. Now, where do the two graphs, z= 16r^2 and z= 8- 16r^2 intersect? That will give the upper limit on the r integral.
 
Ok, thanks HallsofIvy.

Now to make sure I understand it... in my head it seems to make sense that maybe you have to take two integrals wrt r, since its technically moving through two different functions isn't it?

Or does taking the integral of the height first take care of that, providing a "smooth" boundary?
 

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