Volume Integration Around Non-Coordinate Axis

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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid generated by revolving a region bounded by the equations \(xy = 3\), \(y = 1\), \(y = 4\), and \(x = 5\) around the line \(x = 5\) using the disk method.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to represent the radius \(r\) in the disk method when revolving around a vertical axis, specifically the line \(x = 5\). There are questions about whether to add or subtract values when determining the distance from the curve to the axis of rotation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested interpretations for the radius and have proposed integrals based on their reasoning. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly set up the integral, with some guidance being offered regarding the representation of the radius in relation to the given equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the disk method and are examining the implications of revolving around a non-standard axis. There is a focus on ensuring the correct interpretation of the distance from the curve to the line of rotation.

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Homework Statement



Find the volume of the solid generated by revolving the region bounded by the graphs of the equations about the line x = 5. (Use disk method)

$$ xy = 3, y = 1, y = 4, x = 5 $$

Homework Equations


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The formula using for disk method is of the form:

$$ \pi \int (r(x/y))^2*(dx/y) $$

The Attempt at a Solution


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So first I graphed this out, and came up with a region, like so (represented by the white region):

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In disk method, when rotating around a vertical axis, the differential of dy is used.

Setting this integral up, our limits are y = 1, to y = 4, as given in the problem statement.

My main question is how do we represent the r in the disk method equation, when the axis is meant to be around x = 5, and not the y-axis.

The best I could think of would be:

$$ \pi \int_{1}^{4} (\frac {y} {3} + 5)^{2} dy $$

However, something tells me this isn't the right approach, because I'm not seeing the logic behind whether or not I should add, subtract, or subtract from the x = 5.

Thank you.
 
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RyanTAsher said:

Homework Statement



Find the volume of the solid generated by revolving the region bounded by the graphs of the equations about the line x = 5. (Use disk method)

$$ xy = 3, y = 1, y = 4, x = 5 $$

Homework Equations


[/B]
The formula using for disk method is of the form:

$$ \pi \int (r(x/y))^2*(dx/y) $$

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
So first I graphed this out, and came up with a region, like so (represented by the white region):

img.png


In disk method, when rotating around a vertical axis, the differential of dy is used.

Setting this integral up, our limits are y = 1, to y = 4, as given in the problem statement.

My main question is how do we represent the r in the disk method equation, when the axis is meant to be around x = 5, and not the y-axis.

The best I could think of would be:

$$ \pi \int_{1}^{4} (\frac {y} {3} + 5)^{2} dy $$

However, something tells me this isn't the right approach, because I'm not seeing the logic behind whether or not I should add, subtract, or subtract from the x = 5.

Thank you.
Remember, r(y) is the distance measured from the curve xy = 3 to the line x = 5. Examining your graph should tell you what r(1) must be. I don't think that's what the integrand in your integral indicates.
 
RyanTAsher said:

Homework Equations


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The formula using for disk method is of the form:$$ \pi \int (r(x/y))^2*(dx/y) $$
I suspect that the formula you gave for the disk method is to be interpreted as a general formula in which you will use only x or only y , depending upon whether the axis is horizontal or is vertical .

Use ##\displaystyle \ \ \pi \int (r(x))^2\ dx\ \ ## or ##\displaystyle \ \ \pi \int (r(y))^2\ dy\ \ ## as appropriate.
 
So, you could interpret the distance as ## 5 - x ##? and thus make the ## r = 5 - \frac 3 y ## ?

The integral would then become ## \pi \int_{1}^{4} (5 - \frac {3} {y} )^{2} dy ## ?
 
RyanTAsher said:
So, you could interpret the distance as ## 5 - x ##? and thus make the ## r = 5 - \frac 3 y ## ?

The integral would then become ## \pi \int_{1}^{4} (5 - \frac {3} {y} )^{2} dy ## ?
Yes. Looks good to me.
 

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