Volume, washer method and shell method

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The discussion focuses on understanding the setup of washer and shell methods for calculating volumes of solids of revolution. Participants explore the theoretical foundations and practical applications of these methods, including how to establish the necessary equations based on given functions and axes of rotation.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about how to set up washer and shell equations when given functions and lines for rotation.
  • Another participant describes the process of rotating an area bounded by curves around an axis, explaining how to visualize the resulting solid and its cross sections as disks or washers.
  • A participant understands the theory behind the washer method but struggles with its application in setting up equations.
  • One participant outlines the steps for using the washer/disc method, detailing how to derive the volume formula based on a representative rectangle and the functions involved.
  • Another participant provides clarification on integrating based on the orientation of the washer/disk, noting the importance of using dx or dy depending on whether the figure is vertical or horizontal.

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Participants generally share similar understandings of the theoretical aspects of the washer and shell methods, but there is no consensus on the application of these theories, as some express confusion while others provide explanations.

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Some participants may have missing assumptions or unresolved steps in their understanding of the integration process, particularly regarding the application of the washer and shell methods in various scenarios.

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I don't understand how to set up the washer and shell equations. When you are given the function and the line to rotate it around, or two functions and a line.
 
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Suppose we are given an area bounded by certain curves in the xy-plane. That area is rotated around an axis to form a solid. Each point of the figure is rotated in a circle. If you slice the solid perpendicular to the axis you will see a "cross section" (the area revealed by the slice) that is either a full disk or a "washer" (the area between two circles. It's easy to calculate the area of a circle and you can imagine the solid as made of a lot of very thin circles.

For example, suppose the part of the parabola y= x2 for 0< x< 1 is rotated around the y-axis. You get a parabolic solid and if you slice through it perpendicular to the y-axis, at any y, the "cut end" is a circle.

In fact, imagine that this figure is a potato! Slice it into very thin slices to make potato chips. Each slice is a circle (disk, more properly). Its area is &pi;r2 and, taking "h" to be its thickness, its volume is &pi;r2h.

If we put the slices back together we could reform the potato and the volume of the potato is the sum of the volumes of the slices.

Of course, "r", the radius of the circle, varies from slice to slice. If our potato were really shaped like y= x2 rotated around the y-axis, then, since we are slicing perpendicular to the y-axis, "r" is equal to the x value: x= &radic;(y).

The area of the slice is then &pi;r2= &pi;y and, setting this up as a "Riemann sum", the thickness, because it is measured along the y-axis, is dy: the volume of each slice is &pi;y dy and the sum of all the slices (as we imagine the slices becoming infinitesmally thin) becomes the integral of &pi;y dy from y=0 to 1:
(1/2)&pi;y2 (evaluated between 0 and 1)= &pi;/2.
 
i understand the theory behind the washer method, but what i don't get is the application of the theory, i don't understand how to set up the equations
 
With the washer/disc method, if you're given a function f(x) and you want to rotate it, say around the x-axis - then you simply take a representative rectangle with its base on the x-axis (and its length going up to the function).

Then the width/base of the representative rectangle will be dx, while the length will be f(x).

When you rotate the function about the x-axis, that rectangle will essentially become the radius of the circular disc. So,

V=\pi\int_{a}^{b}f(x)^2dx

For something with two functions, just take:

V=\pi\int_{a}^{b}f(x)^2-g(x)^2dx

Where f(x) is a function above g(x).

These are the steps I use to set up the equations for the disc method. Does that help?
 

explains everything
 
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this helps me when writing the integral... hey vex... if the drawn washer/disk is vertical (goes up and down) integrate over x (use dx), if it is horizontal (goes left and right) integrate over y (use dy)
 

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