WAIT I'm not through whining :-(

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The discussion revolves around a participant's frustration with data loss due to computer issues, specifically related to hard drive failures and software problems. Participants share experiences, suggestions for data recovery, and various technical solutions, while also expressing empathy and humor regarding the situation.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses distress over losing important data on a computer, mentioning some backups but not all.
  • Another suggests using hard-drive recovery experts and emphasizes the importance of having duplicate drives and offsite backups.
  • Some participants share their own backup strategies, including using CDs and online backups, while acknowledging that not all data is secure.
  • There are discussions about using specific recovery tools like FileScavenger and techniques for accessing data from a malfunctioning hard drive.
  • Several participants humorously comment on the challenges of using Norton software, with one stating it caused their computer to malfunction.
  • There are suggestions for troubleshooting, such as starting in safe mode, but participants express uncertainty about the effectiveness of these methods.
  • One participant humorously notes the potential for coffee spills to affect keyboard functionality, adding a lighthearted tone to the technical discussion.
  • Another participant questions how one can post online if their computer is supposedly non-functional, highlighting confusion about the situation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally share a range of suggestions and experiences regarding data recovery and software issues, but no consensus is reached on the best approach or solution. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on how to handle the technical problems presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include unresolved technical steps for data recovery, varying definitions of effective backup strategies, and the unclear impact of software issues on system functionality.

  • #151


Andre said:
Of course you are well aware that this is a pretty sure suicide attempt.
Just checking to see if anyone was paying attention.
 
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  • #152


I don't know anyone that cleans with bleah. I thought that was confined to the Peanuts strip.
 
  • #153


If you pour ammonia into chlorine bleach, it will create chlorine gas, but chlorine is an "honest" poison because it will irritate you and force you to leave the area before it can kill you. I don't recommend it, but it is a much safer gas than Hydrogen Sulfide, which in high enough concentrations can kill your sense of smell AND be concentrated enough to kill you.
 
  • #154


I didn't read the whole thread and I'm not sure if the computer problem is fixed yet.

Anyway, I've had some windows no boot problem and the best way to restore the back up files is to pop in a linux live cd. It'll mount your harddrive using linux so you may copy things to other media.

Also, if you have a windows XP disk lying around, pop it in and boot to restore mode, then type
chkdsk C: /f
this will run the checkdisk utility in your windows CD. That fixed my sister's laptop's no boot problem. She couldn't go into windows nor safety mode. She was also installing some software which failed, then whenever she restarts her laptop, it would just give blue screen (about 1/10 of a second and restart). We took a camera and apparently that blue image says something like chkdsk... that's how we figured out what to do.
you can run
chkdsk C: /f /r
that will check for bad sectors but might take a while longer to finish.

And if all things fail, you could get that harddrive out, get a linux machine and do a complete imaging of that harddrive to another one. I believe there are certain free linux (detective style) restoring programs that you can use to try to recover things.
 
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  • #155


tim_lou said:
I didn't read the whole thread and I'm not sure if the computer problem is fixed yet.

Anyway, I've had some windows no boot problem and the best way to restore the back up files is to pop in a linux live cd. It'll mount your harddrive using linux so you may copy things to other media.

Also, if you have a windows XP disk lying around, pop it in and boot to restore mode, then type
chkdsk C: /f
this will run the checkdisk utility in your windows CD. That fixed my sister's laptop's no boot problem. She couldn't go into windows nor safety mode.
you can run
chkdsk C: /f /r
that will check for bad sectors but might take a while longer to finish.

It appears that you just posted in the wrong window.
 
  • #156


turbo-1 said:
... but it is a much safer gas than Hydrogen Sulfide, which in high enough concentrations can kill your sense of smell AND be concentrated enough to kill you.
IIRC. You can detect its smell at about 2 ppb but at 20 ppb the nose can't detect it.
 
  • #157


dlgoff said:
IIRC. You can detect its smell at about 2 ppb but at 20 ppb the nose can't detect it.
That's about right. If the concentration is high enough to kill you, you can't smell it. I was a process chemist in a pulp mill and had primary authority (on my shift) for operating a Class IV waste-water treatment plant. Hydrogen Sulfide was a major concern because it could be generated in copious quantities if the pH of the Pulp mill effluent dropped. I stayed in regular (several times an hour) contact with the hourly employee who was responsible for starting, stopping, valving-in pumps, etc.
 
  • #158


I often clean with bleach. Ultra cheap and does a great job. The guy that installed my tile floors told me to just add a bit of bleach to a bucket of water to mop the floors. I use bleach on my laminate counter tops, use it to clean toilet bowls ( no need for that expensive toilet bowl cleaner). It kills mold, so is great any place that is damp.
 
  • #159


Evo said:
I often clean with bleach. Ultra cheap and does a great job. The guy that installed my tile floors told me to just add a bit of bleach to a bucket of water to mop the floors. I use bleach on my laminate counter tops, use it to clean toilet bowls ( no need for that expensive toilet bowl cleaner). It kills mold, so is great any place that is damp.
Let's see... Evo overuses bleach... bleach is a hazardous material... Evo is very clumsy... what can we infer from this?
 
  • #160


Hurkyl said:
Let's see... Evo overuses bleach... bleach is a hazardous material... Evo is very clumsy... what can we infer from this?
She's not dead yet, so bleach is perfectly safe!
 
  • #161


why is my screen icons and menu bar blinking??

I know it's a virus..that same one that made my desktop icons disapear the last time, but why they keep blinking on and off now is beyond me. At least nothing is disapearing.
 
  • #162


~christina~ said:
why is my screen icons and menu bar blinking??

I know it's a virus..that same one that made my desktop icons disapear the last time, but why they keep blinking on and off now is beyond me. At least nothing is disapearing.

Maybe it's tapeworms, or Giardia...
 
  • #163


You can try to hit alt-ctrl-del to see if there are any suspicious processes running. Try to close some of them to see if the blinking stops.
 
  • #164


lisab said:
Maybe it's tapeworms, or Giardia...

In which case Evo's bleach will probably do the trick
 
  • #165


Gulp it down, guaranteed inner cleanliness
 
  • #166


Hey, I answered your pm.
 
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  • #167


My life is just a long story about viruses. I spend one month getting rid of one virus, only to find I have four more. But that's life on the internet right.
 
  • #168


qspeechc said:
My life is just a long story about viruses. I spend one month getting rid of one virus, only to find I have four more. But that's life on the internet right.
Not if you have proper protection, what are you using?
 
  • #169


Evo said:
Not if you have proper protection, what are you using?
Bleach !
 
  • #170


mgb_phys said:
Bleach !

Careful, mgb, bleach may be harmful to irony.
 
  • #171


Evo said:
Not if you have proper protection, what are you using?

It just invites too many answers, doesn't it!
 
  • #172


Red Rum said:
It just invites too many answers, doesn't it!

Just one answer comes to my mind. Evo should consider it...I think a latex wrapper around the computer would protect it from coffee spitting too. :rolleyes:
 
  • #173


Moonbear said:
Just one answer comes to my mind. Evo should consider it...I think a latex wrapper around the computer would protect it from coffee spitting too. :rolleyes:
The barrier approach is rather crude and not very elegant and the failure rate unacceptably high by all accounts
 
  • #174


Typically I use a belt and braces approach. Use the barrier as a last resort but perform a trajectory analysis to identify and then eliminate the source and establish standard operating procedures with appropriate one point lessons (diagrammatic, of course) to minimise the risk of a reccurrence.
 
  • #175


My SOP is to turn sideways in my chair, drink the coffee, swallow, then turn back to the PC.
 
  • #176


hypatia said:
My SOP is to turn sideways in my chair, drink the coffee, swallow, then turn back to the PC.

That's not very lean. With a good OPL you'll soon be able to drink your coffee while facing the PC
 
  • #177


Oh, I think Evo Child has a new boyfriend. I saw a picture of him on her phone today, cute guy. And for those of you guys that always whine about girls wanting "bad boy" types (which is absolutely not true of intelligent girls/women), all she talks about is how nice he is.

Anyway the leg is healing up nicely, I swear Neosporin can cure anything.
 
  • #178


Evo said:
Anyway the leg is healing up nicely, I swear Neosporin can cure anything.
I think you should get a transfusion of Keith Richards' blood. That could make you last longer than cockroaches.
 
  • #179


Evo said:
Oh, I think Evo Child has a new boyfriend. I saw a picture of him on her phone today, cute guy.
It's George Clooney, isn't it?
Anyway the leg is healing up nicely, I swear Neosporin can cure anything.

Great. I'll try it for my gout.
 
  • #180


Red Rum said:
Evo said:
Oh, I think Evo Child has a new boyfriend. I saw a picture of him on her phone today, cute guy.
It's George Clooney, isn't it?
george_clooney_swimming.jpg

Perhaps, can't tell

Anyway the leg is healing up nicely, I swear Neosporin can cure anything.


Great. I'll try it for my gout.

I'll try it too then.
 
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