Wave paddle application Integration problem

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This discussion revolves around an engineering design application that involves integration. Participants are attempting to clarify the relationships between various parameters and the integration process required for the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are discussing the values represented by 'p', 'g', and 'w', questioning their roles as constants within the integrand. There are attempts to derive expressions for different parts of the problem, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the correctness of coefficients and signs in their equations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their interpretations and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding simplifications and the need to check for errors in signs. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the approaches taken so far.

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Participants are working under the constraints of an engineering design context, which may impose specific assumptions or rules regarding the values and relationships involved in the integration process.

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This is an engineering design application, but It contains integration. Sorry if I didnt post it in the right folder.


I think a)'s answer should be (pgw)^2*h^2
h=r
To be honest no Idea what is going on..

Thanks
 

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gl0ck said:

Homework Statement



This is an engineering design application, but It contains integration. Sorry if I didnt post it in the right folder.I think a)'s answer should be (pgw)^2*h^2
h=r
To be honest no Idea what is going on..

Thanks

What do the values 'p', 'g' and 'w' represent?

If they are just constants, then remove them from the integrand.
Eg.
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So, I think I've figured out 1a) ,b) ,c)
1a)
(pgwH^2)/2
1b)
Fo=-(pgwH^3)/3
1c)
θ=βsin(ωt)
dθ/dt=ωβcos(ωt)
d^2θ/dt=ω^2βsin(ωt)

Q2 gets something like:
T=-(pgwH^3)/3+Bωβcos(-tan^(-1)(Aω/B))-Aω^2βsin(tan^(-1)(Aω/B)
which seems a bit complicated to be integrated, because we have to find first its derivetive..
Thanks
 
gl0ck said:
1b)
Fo=-(pgwH^3)/3
I don't think the coefficient is 1/3. Please post your working.
1c)
θ=βsin(ωt)
dθ/dt=ωβcos(ωt)
d^2θ/dt=ω^2βsin(ωt)
Check your signs.
T=-(pgwH^3)/3+Bωβcos(-tan^(-1)(Aω/B))-Aω^2βsin(tan^(-1)(Aω/B)
which seems a bit complicated to be integrated, because we have to find first its derivetive..
You can simplify cos(arctan(x)) so as not to involve any trig. I think you have a sign wrong, propagated through from 1c. What makes you think you need to integrate this?
 

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