Way to measure density of a solution (beer/wine)

In summary, the beer bug measures the density of beer by tracking the weight of a submerged buoy. They calculate change in density based on changed in weight and then calculate % alcohol (ABV) from that. There are a variety of ways to measure density, sugar content, or alcohol content without requiring a hydrometer or specific gravity readings. It may be worth investigating a capacitance-based method to measure alcohol content in beer.
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This is a bit of a random project I am looking into. Recently a product was released called the beer bug. It measures the density of beer by tracking the weight of a submerged buoy. They calculate change in density based on changed in weight and then calculate % alcohol (ABV) from that.

Normally specific gravity readings are taken before and after fermentation with a hydrometer. As the sugar is consumed by the yeast it changes the density. This is how you can obtain ABV.

Both of these methods seem clunky and difficult to get a digital reading that you could track on an LED screen. Can anyone think of another way to measure density? Is there a way to measure alcohol content or sugar concentration directly?

Thanks
Pat
 
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Pat8you said:
a way to measure alcohol content or sugar concentration directly?
Assays based on physical properties are often used when chemical methods are "awkward."
Pat8you said:
another way to measure density?
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q="densimeter"
You might look at refractive index.
 
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Pat8you said:
This is a bit of a random project I am looking into. Recently a product was released called the beer bug. It measures the density of beer by tracking the weight of a submerged buoy. They calculate change in density based on changed in weight and then calculate % alcohol (ABV) from that.

Normally specific gravity readings are taken before and after fermentation with a hydrometer. As the sugar is consumed by the yeast it changes the density. This is how you can obtain ABV.

Both of these methods seem clunky and difficult to get a digital reading that you could track on an LED screen. Can anyone think of another way to measure density? Is there a way to measure alcohol content or sugar concentration directly?

Thanks
Pat
In an industrial situation, you would use a Brixometer or refractometer to measure sugar content:

http://www.atago.net/USA/products.html

The plain old analog hydrometer is cheap and effective. You can find digital hydrometers, but some of these devices are quite expensive:

http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/sbs/sbs-3500.htm
 
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I'd be a little concerned that this "beer bug" might have a problem with CO2 bubbles sticking to it.
Perhaps an automotive flex-fuel sensor with a lab-type peristaltic (or aquarium) pump could be adapted:

http://www.haltech.com/flex-fuel-sensor-explained/
 
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You might consider the electrical capacitance between two conductive plates in the fluid. Maybe you could use a flooded coaxial cell to eliminate external interference. Agitate the electrodes to remove CO2 bubbles.

Water has a dielectric constant of about 80, while pure ethanol is about 24.3 at 25 °C. There will be some slight non-linearity expected due to the interaction in solution between ethanol and water. A non-linearity may be in your favor. I think it is worth investigating.
 

1. What is density and why is it important in measuring the quality of beer or wine?

Density refers to the mass of a substance per unit volume. In beer and wine, density can be used as an indicator of the concentration of alcohol, sugars, and other dissolved substances. It is important because it can affect the taste, aroma, and overall quality of the beverage.

2. How do you measure the density of a solution like beer or wine?

The most common and accurate way to measure the density of a solution is by using a hydrometer. This instrument measures the buoyancy of a liquid, which is affected by its density. The more dense the solution, the higher the hydrometer will float. The reading on the hydrometer can then be converted into the density value using a conversion chart.

3. What units are used to express density in beer and wine?

Density is typically expressed in grams per milliliter (g/mL) in beer and wine. However, some countries may use different units such as specific gravity (SG) or degrees Plato (°P). It is important to check the unit of measurement being used when comparing density values.

4. Can temperature affect the density of a solution like beer or wine?

Yes, temperature can have a significant impact on the density of a solution. As temperature decreases, the density of the solution increases. This is because cold liquids are more dense than warm liquids. To get an accurate density reading, it is important to measure the temperature of the solution and adjust the reading accordingly.

5. Are there any other methods for measuring the density of beer or wine?

Aside from using a hydrometer, there are other methods for measuring the density of beer or wine. These include using a pycnometer, which is a specialized flask that measures the volume of a liquid, and using a digital density meter, which uses a sensor to measure the density of the solution. However, these methods may be more expensive and less accessible compared to using a hydrometer.

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