The discussion revolves around methods for accessing blocked websites, particularly in the context of censorship in various countries. Participants explore various techniques, including DNS changes, the use of Tor browser, VPNs, and proxies, while also addressing the implications of censorship and the reliability of these methods.
Participants express a range of views on the effectiveness of different methods for accessing blocked websites, with no consensus on the best approach. There is also disagreement regarding the extent and nature of censorship in various countries.
Some participants acknowledge their lack of expertise in networking, which may limit the depth of technical discussions. The effectiveness of suggested methods may depend on specific circumstances, such as location and type of content being accessed.
This discussion may be of interest to individuals seeking to understand methods for bypassing internet censorship, as well as those curious about the implications of such censorship on information access and exchange.
mech-eng said:What are the free ways of accessing blocked websites? I use Google DNS but even that does not work for some sites. Would you share other ways or DNS numbers?
Thank you.
Buffu said:Depends on which type website you want to see. Does it have video or multimedia content in it ?
If you live in a democratic country that is not known for its censorship then I don't think you should anyway access banned websites.
mech-eng said:It's Wikipedia which is one of my favorite sites.
Thank you.
Buffu said:Use Tor browser. Do you live in China ?
mech-eng said:No, in Turkey. Do you know any DNS solution? Is Tor browser secure? I have never used it.
Thank you.
Buffu said:I don't think changing DNS work.
Tor browser is known for its anonymity, your current location is very hard to track in Tor browser.
I am in no way a specialist in Networking and stuff. I guess @phinds and @jedishrfu can help on it.mech-eng said:But I know changing DNS can work very well with some sites but what is the reason that it does not work for wikipedia?
Thank you.
rootone said:There are sites which are called proxies.
The way it works is that the proxy site is located in a country which is not subject to censorship.
You connect to that site, then they connect you to whatever it is you want to see.
Many of them are slow and may not last for more than a month or two, but then you find a new one, it is a way around it.
Sadly, AFAIK, in the U.S, in ATM transactions, only the PIN is encrypted before sent to the back end, but the content of the remainder of the transaction is not encrypted.jedishrfu said:I think people try to find VPN solutions that allow them to bypass country restrictions. At least until the country realizes that's what it's used for. Many corporations use VPN to encrypt communications between home and office for remote employees working from home,
Is it even technically possible?rootone said:The OP says that Wikipedia is censored/banned in Turkey.
Frankly that sounds unbelievable, does China ban Wikipedia?
Really?
I am told that in North Korea only privileged persons have full access to the internet, the plebs only get the official version of it.WWGD said:Is it even technically possible?
But I mean, is there just a single ISP or something? Do they inbound-prohibit some sites?rootone said:I am told that in North Korea only privileged persons have full access to the internet, the plebs only get the official version of it.
However it is possible that what I am told is wrong.
Yeah, well that is how the story is told anyway.WWGD said:... is there just a single ISP or something?
It is my understanding that the government controls all of the multitudinous ISPs in China and they can (and DO) ban anything they want. It's called "The Great Firewall".WWGD said:But I mean, is there just a single ISP or something? Do they inbound-prohibit some sites?
How so? You mean censorship-wise?rootone said:The original internet was a great idea, we got something else instead.
Yes, but the implementation was terrible. It overlooked human nature completely and was not built with any concept of security, and see where that has left us now.rootone said:The original internet was a great idea, we got something else instead.
Plus, with " free" google, we ended up with self-sensorship, where you get bubbled into a sub-internet of your likes.rootone said:I meant like free exchange of information without prejudice, what we ended up with is mostly just another advertising medium,
It's much worse that that. It is a significant contributor to the divisiveness that is ruining America. That, of course, seems inevitable with the free exchange of information including false and massively biased information.rootone said:I meant like free exchange of information without prejudice, what we ended up with is mostly just another advertising medium,
That is also due to people who choose to live in their bubble, not just the inter webs.phinds said:It's much worse that that. It is a significant contributor to the divisiveness that is ruining America. That, of course, seems inevitable with the free exchange of information including false and massively biased information.
Yes, exactly as I said. "That, of course, seems inevitable with the free exchange of information" is not limited to the internet but it is made MUCH easier by the internetWWGD said:That is also due to people who choose to live in their bubble, not just the inter webs.
We may help you if you give us your sink's IP address ;).rootone said:This thread started with the idea of governments blocking websites.
My task tomorrow is to unblock my kitchen sink which seems to be behaving contrary to well accepted physics,
See you later guys.
And, you know, each of us is open-minded, it is just those who disagree with us that are not.phinds said:Yes, exactly as I said. "That, of course, seems inevitable with the free exchange of information" is not limited to the internet but it is made MUCH easier by the internet