What Are Rattling Rocks and How Are They Formed?

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The discussion revolves around the nature and formation of rattling rocks, specifically a hollow rock found in Eastern Oregon that contains smaller objects inside. Participants explore various hypotheses regarding its origin, including comparisons to geodes and volcanic processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a hollow rock found in Eastern Oregon, suggesting it may be a geode but noting discrepancies with typical geode characteristics.
  • Another participant proposes that the rock could be pumicite if it floats in water, but the original poster confirms it does not float.
  • A participant mentions that rattling rocks are common in New Zealand and suggests they may have a volcanic origin, supporting the professor's explanation of the rock's formation.
  • Some participants clarify that geodes form through different mechanisms, typically in mineral-rich environments, and are usually spherical.
  • One participant shares experiences with rattling rocks found in Nevada, noting that some contain poorly formed quartz crystals.
  • Another participant expresses curiosity about the contents of the rock but decides to keep it whole due to its uniqueness.
  • Several participants discuss the prevalence of rattling rocks in specific locations, including a stream in the Waitaki valley, which is noted as a tourist attraction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature and formation of rattling rocks, with no consensus reached on the exact classification or origin of the rock in question. Multiple competing hypotheses are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the characteristics of geodes and the formation processes of rattling rocks depend on specific definitions and geological contexts that are not fully explored in the discussion.

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I have a rock that I found while on a college class outing in Eastern Oregon. It is hollow inside and has multiple objects inside that rattle. I was told by a professor that isn't was formed when lava was ejected into the air and as it fell, it sort of ballooned out and solidified with smaller rocks inside of it. I have searched the internet and not found anything that fits this description. My guess is that it is a geode but it doesn't seem to match any of the descriptions or photos I have found. Can anyone tell me what it is?
 

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Greg Bernhardt said:
Are you going to crack it open? :)
I would rather not.
 
Seriously, online, looking at a picture, do you expect us to say what's inside? I have a rock that looks like marble on the outside, I've posted pictures, but the "marble" is striated across something visible inside, there are openings between the strings of "marble" like streaks. You can see another object encased inside of this marble like rock. Never seen anything like it, neither has anyone else. I love cool things like this.

If you do decide to open it let us know. You might want to take it to a University's geology department and see if they have any way of looking inside of it, even if to bore a small hole and insert a camera.
 
Looks like it could be pumicite - if it floats in water it probably is.
 
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jim mcnamara said:
Looks like it could be pumicite - if it floats in water it probably is.
Thanks for the replies. No, it doesn't float. I didn't expect anyone to know, I was just hoping. Does the explanation given by my professor sound reasonable? We found 7 or 8 of them on our trip.
 
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Hi you Bryon
welcome to PF :smile:
Bryon Palmer said:
Thanks for the replies. No, it doesn't float. I didn't expect anyone to know, I was just hoping. Does the explanation given by my professor sound reasonable? We found 7 or 8 of them on our trip.

"rattle stones" ... have had lots of fun hunting for and finding the occasional ones of them when I lived in New Zealand ... there is also a sedimentary variety
your profs' explanation is quite reasonable

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My guess is that it is a geode but it doesn't seem to match any of the descriptions or photos

no, not really geodes, ( in the strictest definition) they form by a different mechanism ... in a mineral rich rock and water environment
and they are usually quite spherical inside and out

Basalt will often have cavities ... irregular in shape and filled with crystals of minerals such as Heulandite, Natrolite and a few other types of zeolitesDave
 
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davenn said:
Hi you Bryon
welcome to PF :smile:

"rattle stones" ... have had lots of fun hunting for and finding the occasional ones of them when I lived in New Zealand ... there is also a sedimentary variety
your profs' explanation is quite reasonable
no, not really geodes, ( in the strictest definition) they form by a different mechanism ... in a mineral rich rock and water environment
and they are usually quite spherical inside and out

Basalt will often have cavities ... irregular in shape and filled with crystals of minerals such as Heulandite, Natrolite and a few other types of zeolitesDave
Awesome! Thanks for the info Dave!
 
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Sounds like a hollow version of our state rock: Thunderegg

Of course, without opening it, you'll never know.
 
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There are a few geodes in eastern Oregon, Idaho and Utah that rattle. It's possible that there are stones inside yours, but some rattlers that have been cut open also have poorly formed quartz crystals that possibly broke off.
Smaller geodes tend to be spheroidal and are more typically picked up because they are small. We found several long, bomb-shaped rocks in Nevada a few years ago. One, about 42-inches long and 16 inches wide turned out to have a 34"x 12" crystal filling, mostly amethyst. Three were duds and one was cut in half before cutting it lengthwise. That rock was a geode, but not too impressive.
If you ever do cut your rattler open, I would be interested in knowing what caused the rattling.
 
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This is all great information. Thanks for everyone's help. My curiosity is almost enough to make me cut it open but having a rock that rattles isn't very common. It is the only one I have left so I think I will keep it whole.
 
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