What are resistors in power supplies for?

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The discussion revolves around the purpose of a resistor found in an AC to DC power supply circuit, particularly in relation to voltage measurement and load management. Participants explore various functions of resistors in power supply circuits, including their role in voltage regulation and safety.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the presence of a 1kohm resistor in an AC to DC adapter and questions its purpose, suggesting it might limit current when a load is connected.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the function of resistors varies depending on their location in the power supply circuit and requests more information about the specific type of power supply.
  • A participant explains that a 'bleeder' resistor is typically used to provide a minimum load for improved voltage regulation and to discharge the output voltage when the power supply is turned off.
  • There is a clarification that the bleeder resistor does not maintain a constant voltage but helps manage the voltage drop when transitioning from an unloaded to a loaded state.
  • Concerns are raised about safety, particularly regarding the discharge of capacitors to prevent accidental shocks and damage to connected equipment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various views on the function of the resistor, with some agreeing on its role as a bleeder resistor while others question its impact on voltage regulation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of how the resistor maintains voltage under different conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for visual aids, such as pictures of the circuit board, to provide clearer insights into the resistor's role. There is also a distinction made between high voltage and low voltage power supplies in terms of the resistor's purpose.

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Hey guys. I just opened up a case from an AC to DC adapter and I noticed a 1kohm resistor in the circuit. I remembered a class I had about voltage supplies and I remember there were diagrams with a transformer, full bridge rectifiers, capacitors and at the end of them there was a resistor. The resistor was placed in such a way that we could measure the output rectified voltage across its terminals. However, if I'm not mistaken, we could obtain the same voltage measures whether that resistor was there or not, so, my question is, what is that resistor for? Is it to limit the current whenever I connect a load to it? The back of the case has 300mA maximum on it.
Thanks a lot!
 
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Guidestone said:
Hey guys. I just opened up a case from an AC to DC adapter and I noticed a 1kohm resistor in the circuit. I remembered a class I had about voltage supplies and I remember there were diagrams with a transformer, full bridge rectifiers, capacitors and at the end of them there was a resistor. The resistor was placed in such a way that we could measure the output rectified voltage across its terminals. However, if I'm not mistaken, we could obtain the same voltage measures whether that resistor was there or not, so, my question is, what is that resistor for? Is it to limit the current whenever I connect a load to it? The back of the case has 300mA maximum on it.
Thanks a lot!
your question is too vague to give a decent answer.
Resistors have lots of uses depending on where in the PSU circuit they are

1) what type of power supply ?
2) where in the power supply is the resistor(s) ?

show us some sharp and well lit pics of the power supply both the component and track side of the circuit boardDave
 
Normally a simple unregulated full bridge rectifier, capacitor circuit unloaded output voltage would be the peak voltage of the AC input voltage to the full bridge rectifier. So usually a 'bleeder' resistor is used to give a minimum load on the circuit to improve DC voltage regulation from no to full load and to always discharge the output voltage to zero when the AC power is disconnected.

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The filter 'Ripple' and the DC voltage varies with the load.

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http://williamson-labs.com/powersupply.htm
 
davenn said:
your question is too vague to give a decent answer.
Resistors have lots of uses depending on where in the PSU circuit they are

1) what type of power supply ?
2) where in the power supply is the resistor(s) ?

show us some sharp and well lit pics of the power supply both the component and track side of the circuit boardDave

You are right Davenn, I should have uploaded some pics. In fact, the picture down below nsaspook posted is what I'm talking about. I never heard about those bleeding resistors before. However, if it's possible to be explained, how can a resistor help maintain voltage constant?
Thank you guys!
 
Guidestone said:
However, if it's possible to be explained, how can a resistor help maintain voltage constant?
the bleeder resistor isn't for maintaining a constant voltage ( not that I have been ever aware of)
it is, as its name suggests, used to slowly discharge the capacitor ( bleed off the voltage across the capacitor)
when the PSU is turned off. There are a couple of main purposes for this

1) for a high voltage DC PSU, a dual purpose of... a) discharging the cap so that the user doesn't accidentally zap themselves
b) discharging the cap so that when another piece of gear is connected to the PSU, it isn't damaged by a large voltage spike from the capacitor

2) for a low voltage PSU, purely for the same purpose as b) above ...
discharging the cap so that when another piece of gear is connected to the PSU, it isn't damaged by a large voltage spike from the capacitorDave
 
Guidestone said:
You are right Davenn, I should have uploaded some pics. In fact, the picture down below nsaspook posted is what I'm talking about. I never heard about those bleeding resistors before. However, if it's possible to be explained, how can a resistor help maintain voltage constant?
Thank you guys!

It doesn't make it constant, it just makes the initial voltage drop from completely unloaded (Vripple ~0) to to the loaded value of Vripple less in a very cheaply made wall-wart.
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http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/rectct.html
 
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