What are the 4th roots of -16?

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The discussion revolves around finding the 4th roots of -16, a problem situated in the context of complex numbers and roots of negative values.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of the 4th roots of -16, questioning the completeness of the original poster's response and the multivalued nature of roots in complex analysis.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants pointing out that the original poster has not listed all distinct 4th roots. Some have provided insights into the nature of complex roots and the need to consider all possible values.

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There is a focus on the distinction between a single value and the complete set of roots, as well as the implications of multivalued functions in complex analysis.

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i am to find the 4th roots of -16

[tex](-16)^{1/4}=2i^{1/4}[/tex]
[tex]i=e^{i \pi/2}[/tex]
[tex]i^{1/4}=e^{i \pi/8}[/tex]
[tex](-16)^{1/4}=2e^{i \pi/8}[/tex]
or
[tex](-16)^{1/4}=2e^{i 5\pi/8}[/tex]
or
[tex](-16)^{1/4}=2e^{i 9\pi/8}[/tex]

is this correct?
 
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As far as it goes. Where is your fourth 4th root?
 
the fourth root of -16 is [tex]2e^{i 9\pi/8}[/tex]

didnt i show that?
 
If that's the fourth 4th root, then where's your third? You've only written three roots down, so you're missing at least one of them!
 
I'm not sure I understand. I am to find the 4th root of -16, not the fourth 4th root. and (-16)^(1/4) is the fourth root of -16, so I'm not sure what else is needed since [tex](-16)^{1/4}=2e^{i 9\pi/8}[/tex]
 
I am to find the 4th root of -16
In the original question, you said you're supposed to find the 4th roots of -16. As in all of them. How many 4th roots does -16 have? How many have you shown?


[tex](-16)^{1/4}=2e^{i 9\pi/8}[/tex]
I guess I'm not up on the convention for this stuff, but I would say that this is wrong. I would say the L.H.S. is multivalued, and denotes all fourth roots of -16, and the R.H.S. is a single value, denoting one fourth root of -16. Thus, it wouldn't be appropriate to write an equality there.
 
I see, so they are equal but just not equal in showing ALL the fourth roots of -16 right?
 
well that's like saying sin^-1(1/2) doesn't equal pi/6, because it also equals 5pi/6 and, well, so on
 
well that's like saying sin^-1(1/2) doesn't equal pi/6, because it also equals 5pi/6 and, well, so on
I agree. Lots of silly mistakes are made because people forget that the inverse of the sin function is multivalued.
 
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UrbanXrisis said:
I see, so they are equal but just not equal in showing ALL the fourth roots of -16 right?
What? "they are all equal but just not equal"?

Any number has 4 distinct fourth (complex) roots. For example the fourth roots of 1 are 1, -1, i, and -i. You were asked to find all of the fourth roots of -16. ("i am to find the 4th roots of -16")
You only showed three in your original post.

Actually, your very first statement:
[tex](-16)^{1/4}=2i^{1/4}[/tex]
is wrong. The principle root of 16 is, of course, 2 but -1 is not equal to i!
What you should have written was
[tex](-16)^{1/4}= 2(-1)^{1/4}[/tex]
Now, what are the 4 distinct fourth roots of -1?
 
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[tex](-1)^{1/4}=e^{i \pi /4}[/tex]
[tex](-1)^{1/4}=e^{9i \pi /4}[/tex]
[tex](-1)^{1/4}=e^{17i \pi /4}[/tex]
[tex](-1)^{1/4}=e^{25i \pi /4}[/tex]

right? so that:

[tex](-16)^{1/4}= 2e^{i \pi /4}[/tex]
or
[tex](-16)^{1/4}= 2e^{9i \pi /4}[/tex]
or
[tex](-16)^{1/4}= 2e^{17i \pi /4}[/tex]
or
[tex](-16)^{1/4}= 2e^{25i \pi /4}[/tex]
 

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