What are the characteristics of pine trees in Northern Canada?

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The discussion revolves around the characteristics of pine trees in Northern Canada, particularly focusing on their physical attributes, growth patterns, and adaptations to the environment. Participants explore various aspects of these trees, including their appearance, root systems, and the ecological conditions they thrive in.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the tall and skinny nature of the pine trees may be an adaptation to resist wind resistance, suggesting a complex root system due to thin soil over solid rock.
  • Another participant argues that tall and skinny trees can be found in dense forests, providing a link to a photo for comparison.
  • A different participant points out that the branches in the observed photos appeared much skinnier than those in the provided image.
  • One contributor identifies a specific pine species, Pinus sylvestris, and mentions that typical adaptations in arctic environments include dwarf growth and dead tops due to snow protection.
  • Several participants reference the Boreal forest and its unique adaptations for tree survival, suggesting that these adaptations are crucial for understanding the growth of trees in Northern Canada.
  • There is a suggestion that the trees in question might actually be spruce rather than pine, highlighting the need for careful identification.
  • One participant expresses surprise that trees grow best in well-drained soils, noting comparable growth in moist flood plains.
  • A participant mentions forestry practices where lower branches are trimmed to promote straight growth and reduce knots, which is important for lumber production.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the specific species of trees and their characteristics, with some suggesting they are spruce rather than pine. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of the trees and their adaptations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the identification of tree species and the ecological conditions that affect their growth. Some assumptions about soil characteristics and tree adaptations are not fully explored or agreed upon.

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My neighbor recently visited Northern Canada on a hunting trip. He took a great many photos. Upon review, I noticed they have very tall and skinny pine trees with very full tops. He described the soil as very thin, perhaps less than 12", and solid rock below.

Accordingly, I'm wondering if anyone is knowledgeable about the characteristics of these trees.

It appears they are skinny to resist wind resistance. However, given their height and the reported soil thickness, I would assume the root systems would resemble an inter-woven quilt through the soil and above the rock?

Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.
 
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You get tall and skinny pine trees with full tops anywhere in a dense forest.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22026080/pine-forest-landes-france-1600x1200-id-201.jpg

Which gets more obvious when you start cutting them down.
 
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Understood, however, the trees in the photos I saw didn't look like these - the branches were MUCH skinnier.
 
I don't see thick branches there. But anyway there are many pine species with different looks. The one in the pic seems a Pinus sylvestris to me, which is not that abundant in Canada. Notice the complete different shape, when they get more room to grow.

Typical arctic adaptation is dwarf growth and occasionally dead tops when the snow protected the lower parts from freezing to death. Unfortunately I cant' find a good picture to illustrate that.
 
Borrow or rent the Planet Earth video series. You'll see that what we call the Boreal forest requires special adaptations if trees are to survive there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiga
 
How do I make the picture appear?
 
Couldn't delete-just edit?
 
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got it
 
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enosis_ said:
How do I make the picture appear?

here is your pic in a decent size. Sometimes you have to download it, resize it with some program like paint, not to exceed 800 pixels in width and then re-up it somewhere like in www.tinypic.com and then link to it with tags

[PLAIN]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22026080/Taiga_Landscape_in_Canada.jpg

If you can delete the big picture, the thread stays manageable.

Also note that the trees we're looking at are maybe spruce, like this, not pines.
 
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Thank you Andre! I saved the tinypic site for future use.
 
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Yes Andre, I see the similarity to the Spruce. Either way, would the root systems on this type of tree typically grow in a wide pattern and interwoven in the shallow soil?
 
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That's what you would expect, Here is some more information.
 
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Andre said:
That's what you would expect, Here is some more information.

Your link is quite helpful Andre - thank you. I do find it surprising the trees grow best in well-drained soils. I observed growths in a very moist flood plain that were comparable to growths on a well drained hillside?
 
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Also note that in forrestry plantations, trees often get trimmed of their lower branches quickly as they grow.
This encourages the tree to grow straighter and also to have fewer and smaller knots along the length of the trunk
Both these features are required for good lumber production

Dave
 

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