What are the different types of kites and how do they work?

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The discussion revolves around the physics of kites, specifically focusing on the forces acting on a kite in flight, such as lift, drag, and gravity. The original poster is considering a project that involves demonstrating these principles with a miniature kite and is seeking clarification on the relevant physics concepts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the forces acting on a kite, including the relationship between drag, lift, and gravity, and questions whether these forces should be applied at the kite's center of mass. They also inquire about the relevance of torque and Bernoulli's principle in this context.

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Participants have provided insights regarding the application of forces, noting that lift and drag act through the center of pressure rather than the center of mass. Some have suggested further reading on kite aerodynamics and airfoil theory to deepen understanding. The discussion appears to be productive, with participants exploring various aspects of kite physics.

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The original poster is working within the framework of a project assignment, which may impose certain constraints on the scope of their investigation into kite physics.

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So, I am a student of 3rd quarter calculus based physics class, we have to do a project so I was thinking of picking the physics of a kite with a miniature visual of a kite in like a state of static flight if I can with a controlled fan and a small paper kite. I just want to verify that this project isn't more of a difficult topic that I think. So, for a kite to glide it has to have a drag force from the wind hitting the kite at an upward angle so the projected upward force is equal or greater than the downward force of gravity with the addition of the tension of the string holding it down if the drag is greater. But when applying these forces to an actual kite I would apply these forces at the kites center of mass, correct? With the drag force proportional to the area of the kites surface? Do I have to find the torque created throughout the rigid surface? and When does the bernoulli's principle come in play? Is there anything I am forgetting or is this about it?
 
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The forces of lift and drag will act through the centre of pressure, not the centre of mass. NASA has an excellent series of pages on kite aerodynamics. Here's the one about centre of pressure.
 
A typical kite is really more of an airfoil. The way the lift and drag are generated on an airfoil are slightly more complex. Take a look at article on Thin Airfoil Theory. See if you can sort most of it out.

In short, the resultant vector of drag and lift aren't along the line at which the relative wind moves. Unless the airfoil is stalled, the lift is significantly higher. (Though, kites can fly stalled.) Furthermore, the point at which the force is applied is the center of pressure, which isn't necessarily aligned with center of mass. In fact, for a kite, the center of mass is typically significantly aft of center of pressure.

This really sounds like a quite doable project, but you should read up a bit more on airfoils in general and kites specifically.
 
Thanks that really helps
 

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