What Are the Energy Transitions in a Hypothetical Atom When Exposed to Light?

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The discussion revolves around a hypothetical atom with a ground-state energy of -10.0 eV and its interaction with light at specific wavelengths (207 nm and 146 nm). Participants explore the energy transitions that occur when the atom absorbs photons of these wavelengths.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to calculate the energies of the absorbed photons using the equation E = hc/λ. There is discussion about the appropriateness of the Bohr model for this atom, with some questioning whether it applies to the given absorption wavelengths. Others suggest using the calculated energies to determine energy levels and transitions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for photon energies and are working through the implications for energy levels. There is acknowledgment of the need to reconsider assumptions about the model being used. Guidance has been offered regarding the calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with unit conversions and the applicability of certain equations, indicating that the problem may not conform to standard models like the Bohr model. There are also references to the need for clarity in energy level diagrams and transitions.

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1. Problem:
The ground-state energy of a hypothetical atom is at -10.0eV. When these atoms, in the ground state, are illuminated with light, only the wavelengths of 207 nanometers and 146 nanometers are absorbed by the light atoms (1 nanometer = 10^-9meters).

(a)Calculate the energies of the photons of light of the two absorption-spectrum wavelengths.

(b)Complete the energy level diagram shown below for these atoms by showing all the excited energy states.
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(c)Show by arrows on the energy-level diagram all of the possible transitions that would produce emission-spectrum lines.

(d)What would be the wavelength of the emission line corresponding to the transition from the second excited state to the first excited state?


Homework Equations


E=13.6 [(1/ni^2)-(1/n2^2)]eV

En=-(13.6eV)[(Z^2)/(n^2)]

(1/λ)=(2pi^2mk^2e^4/h^3c)[(1/nf^2)-(1/ni^2)]

2pi^2mk^2e^4/h^3c = 1.097 x 10^7 m

E = hc/λ

hc=1.24 x 10^3eV

The Attempt at a Solution


(a)
207nm = 2.07 x 10^-7m
146nm = 1.46 x 10^-7m
E = hc/λ
E1=[(1.24 x 10^3eV)/(2.07 x 10^-7)]
E1=5.99 x 10^9

E2=[(1.24 x 10^3eV)/1.46 x 10^-7)]
E2=8.493 x 10^9

(b)
I assumed it was bohr model...(?)
Ground state is at -10.0eV
First excited state is 1/4 of ground state
=(1/4)(-10.0eV)
first excited state=-2.5eV
Second excited state is 1/9 of ground state
=(1/9)(-10.0eV)
second excited state is -1.11eV

sorry about the terrible picture...

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(c) is included in picture (?) squiggly arrows..

(d)
ni=2
nf=1

(1/λ)=(2pi^2mk^2e^4/h^3c)[(1/nf^2)-(1/ni^2)]
(1/λ)=(1.097 x 10^7 m)[(1/(1)^2)-(1/(2)^2)]
(1/λ)=(1.097 x 10^7 m)[(1/1)-(1/4)]
(1/λ)=(1.097 x 10^7 m)(1-0.25)
(1/λ)=(1.097 x 10^7 m)(0.75)
(1/λ)=8.2275 x 10^6
1=(8.2275 x 10^6)λ
λ=(1/8.2275 x 10^6)
λ=1.2154 x 10^-7m
 
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m_physics said:

Homework Equations


E=13.6 [(1/ni^2)-(1/n2^2)]eV

En=-(13.6eV)[(Z^2)/(n^2)]

(1/λ)=(2pi^2mk^2e^4/h^3c)[(1/nf^2)-(1/ni^2)]

2pi^2mk^2e^4/h^3c = 1.097 x 10^7 m

E = hc/λ

hc=1.24 x 10^3eV
Right number, wrong units. It's actually 1.24 x 103 eV·nm

The Attempt at a Solution


(a)
207nm = 2.07 x 10^-7m
146nm = 1.46 x 10^-7m
E = hc/λ
E1=[(1.24 x 10^3eV)/(2.07 x 10^-7)]
E1=5.99 x 10^9

E2=[(1.24 x 10^3eV)/1.46 x 10^-7)]
E2=8.493 x 10^9
Not quite. Try calculating E1 and E2 again, using the correct units for hc (eV·nm) and λ (nm).

(b)
I assumed it was bohr model...(?)
Not a bad idea, but then the absorbed wavelengths would turn out to be different than the ones they said. So it turns out this one does not follow the Bohr model.

Instead, you can use E1 and E2 to figure out where the energy levels are.
 
So to try this again.

For part a)
E1 from 207nm lambda comes out to be 5.99 and E2 from 146nm to be 8.4935

For part b)
You draw those two levels as excited states on the diagram
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Then for part d)
I keep thinking of using the same (1/lambda) equation to find the wavelength with nf being 2 and ni being 1 but since this isn't a bohr model, that equation doesn't apply..(?)

Meaning... I would have to use I would have to use E1 and E2 ...
Find the energy w/i E1 and E2 by taking E2 - E1
-8.49-(-5.99)
giving me DeltaE = -2.503eV

Then setting that total e and rearranging E=(hc/lambda) to find lambda giving me
Lambda = (hc/E)
Lambda = [(1.24 x 10^3eV*nm)/(-2.503eV)]
Which gives the final answer lambda = -495.406... 495.406nm wavelength of emission??

Correct? Maybe not?
 
m_physics said:
So to try this again.

For part a)
E1 from 207nm lambda comes out to be 5.99 and E2 from 146nm to be 8.4935

You're getting there!

Those are the correct energies of the photons.

If a ground state atom absorbs a 207 nm photon, it's energy will be 5.99 eV higher than it was in the ground state. So, what would be the energy level after absorbing a 207 nm photon?
 
a) Calculated E1 = 5.99eV and E2 = 8.49eV as energies given off
b) From ground state, -10.0eV + 5.99eV gives me -4.01eV
-10.0eV + 8.49315 gives me = -1.50685eV
Meaning on my diagram, the first excited state would be -4.01eV and second being -1.50685
d) using lambda = (hc/E)
I first find the energy difference from n=2 to n=1
-1.506 - (-4.01)
change in E = 2.5035eV

Then substituting lambda = [(1.24 x 10^3eV*nm)/2.5035eV)]
lambda = 495.307m
 
Looks good :smile:
 

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