What are the guaranteed values of c for the Mean Value Theorem for Integrals?

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The discussion revolves around applying the Mean Value Theorem for Integrals to the function f(x) = 3cos(x) over the interval [-π/4, π/4]. Participants are exploring how to find the guaranteed values of c as stated by the theorem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition of the Mean Value Theorem for Integrals and its application, questioning the values of a and b, and the function f. There are attempts to compute the integral and relate it to the average value of the function over the interval.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the integral's value and the properties of the function. Some participants are exploring the implications of using exact values versus decimal approximations.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of confusion regarding the nature of the function (odd/even) and the integral's value, which is noted to be 3√2. Participants are also considering the implications of rounding intermediate results.

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Homework Statement



Find the value(s) of c guaranteed by the Mean Value Theorem for Integrals for the function over the given interval.

Homework Equations



f(x)=3cos(x), [-pi/4, pi/4]


The Attempt at a Solution



well i do f(b)-f(a)/b-a and get zero but that's not the answer whenever i try it..
 
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What does the Mean Value Theorem for Integrals say? (It's more specific than just the Mean Value Theorem).
 
Strants said:
What does the Mean Value Theorem for Integrals say? (It's more specific than just the Mean Value Theorem).

the average area under the graph?

1/b-a times f(c) right? but how to put numbers into that
 
What are a and b? What is f in this problem? What is the value of the integral, namely this one?
\int_{-\pi/4}^{\pi/4} 3 cos(x)dx
 
Mark44 said:
What are a and b? What is f in this problem? What is the value of the integral, namely this one?
\int_{-\pi/4}^{\pi/4} 3 cos(x)dx

a is -pi/4

b is pi/4

f is 3cosx

integral is 0. cause odd function right?
 
Yes, except that the function snt odd and the integral doesn't equal 0.
 
micromass said:
Yes, except that the function snt odd and the integral doesn't equal 0.

3cos(pi/4)-3cos(-pi/4)=2.12-2.12. or is it plus? if it is plus then what next? multiply by 1/b-a?
 
Since when does \int{3\cos(x)dx}=3cos(x)?
What is the integral of a cosine?
 
micromass said:
Since when does \int{3\cos(x)dx}=3cos(x)?
What is the integral of a cosine?

not thinking straight. sorry I am doing an essay at the same time but that's really no excuse

3sin(pi/4)-3sin(pi/4)=

2.12132+2.12132


now what?
 
  • #10
Now you need to calculate

\frac{1}{b-a}\int_a^b{f(x)dx}

thus plug in everything you know, and you will get a certain number. Now you only need to find a c such that f(x)=3cos(c) equals that very number.
 
  • #11
micromass said:
Now you need to calculate

\frac{1}{b-a}\int_a^b{f(x)dx}

thus plug in everything you know, and you will get a certain number. Now you only need to find a c such that f(x)=3cos(c) equals that very number.

well the integral is 4.24. the 1/b-a is .63662

4.24x.63662=2.7

2.7=3cos(x)? what? how in the world do you solve that
 
  • #12
The integral is actually 3√2 and the length of the interval is actually ∏/2. You'll get better results if you leave your intermediate results in their exact forms rather than rounding to a random number of decimal places.

If you have a = b cos(x), there's an inverse trig function that will be helpful.
 
  • #13
inverse cosine i got it right

thanks for the help
 
  • #14
Mark44 said:
The integral is actually 3√2 and the length of the interval is actually ∏/2. You'll get better results if you leave your intermediate results in their exact forms rather than rounding to a random number of decimal places.

If you have a = b cos(x), there's an inverse trig function that will be helpful.

the online thing wanted decimals but yea i shud leave it as that for the test.

before someone calls me dumb for not using inverse trig i solved it before reading the last help
 

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