What Are the Implications of a New Relativistic Quantum Theory?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of a new relativistic quantum theory as presented in Eugene Stefanovich's book "Relativistic Quantum Dynamics." The conversation explores the theoretical foundations of particle physics, the relationship between quantum electrodynamics (QED) and classical electrodynamics, and the proposed modifications to traditional views on these subjects.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Eugene Stefanovich proposes a new formulation of relativistic quantum theory that emphasizes particles over fields, suggesting this approach eliminates the need for renormalization.
  • Some participants challenge the validity of the new theory by questioning its ability to derive classical Maxwell equations from the proposed quantum electrodynamics.
  • There is a discussion about the sufficiency of using direct position- and velocity-dependent potentials in a Hamiltonian approach without invoking electric and magnetic fields.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the historical effectiveness of Maxwell's equations, with some participants questioning why engineers have relied on them for over a century.
  • Stefanovich acknowledges that while Maxwell's equations are reasonable approximations for macroscopic cases, they may not adequately describe systems with few point charges or magnetic moments.
  • Participants note unresolved paradoxes and violations of conservation laws in traditional Maxwell's electrodynamics, suggesting that the new particle-based theory may address these issues.
  • There is mention of experimental evidence related to superluminal propagation of evanescent waves as a potential area where traditional theories may fail.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity and implications of the new relativistic quantum theory. There is no consensus on whether the proposed theory can successfully derive classical electrodynamics or address the limitations of Maxwell's equations.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations of the discussion include the lack of a formal derivation of Maxwell's equations from the new theory and unresolved mathematical steps in the proposed formulations. The conversation also highlights the dependence on definitions and assumptions related to the treatment of fields and particles.

  • #241
Dickfore said:
So, then, you have not proven relativistic covariance exactly, have you?

This is correct. The whole approach in Appendix O is perturbative and expansion in powers of 1/c^2 was used. Only low-order terms were retained in the proof.

However, there is a good reason to believe that relativistic invariance will be valid in higher orders as well. The traditional field-based QED is relativistically invariant (see Appendix N). The dressed particle approach is obtained from QED by means of a unitary dressing transformation, which preserves Poincare commutators (see subsection 10.2.8). Therefore, the full interaction potential between dressed charged particles must be relativistically invariant as well. Unfortunately, this full non-perturbative potential is not known yet and explicit proof of its invariance is not possible.

Eugene.
 
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  • #242
meopemuk said:
This is correct. The whole approach in Appendix O is perturbative and expansion in powers of 1/c^2 was used. Only low-order terms were retained in the proof.

However, there is a good reason to believe that relativistic invariance will be valid in higher orders as well.
Eugene.

lol, this is not considered a scientific argument. Why don't you derive a Hamiltonian in the next order in perturbation theory?
 
  • #243
Dickfore said:
Why don't you derive a Hamiltonian in the next order in perturbation theory?

This is exactly what I'm doing right now. The calculations are rather non-trivial as they involve loop integrals with their ultraviolet and infrared divergences. If I'm successful I'll have radiative corrections to the Darwin-Breit Hamiltonian, which describe, e.g., the anomalous magnetic moment of the electron and the Lamb shift. I will be happy to report my findings here when I'm done.

Eugene.
 

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