What Are the Inverse Images of Various Sets Under the Function f(x)=x^2?

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The discussion revolves around finding the inverse images of various sets under the function f(x) = x^2, defined from ℝ to ℝ. Participants are tasked with determining f^-1(T) for specific sets, including a single value, an interval, and a range that includes negative numbers.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Some participants attempt to express the inverse image using the square root function, while others question the validity of this approach given the nature of the function. There are discussions about the definition of inverse images and how they differ from inverse functions.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the inverse image concept. Some have provided insights into the nature of the sets involved and how to express the inverse images correctly, while others are still grappling with the definitions and implications of the function's characteristics.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the inclusion of negative values in the sets and the implications for real solutions. Participants are also reflecting on the definitions provided in their textbooks and how they relate to the problem at hand.

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Homework Statement :
Define f: ℝ→ℝ by f(x)=x^2. Find f^-1(T) for each of the following:

(a) T = {9}
(b) T = [4,9)
(c) T = [-4,9]

The attempt at a solution:
So, the inverse of f should be f^-1(T)=+/-√(x). Therefor:

(a) f^-1(9)= +/- 3
(b) f^-1(4)= +/- 2, f^-1(5)= +/- √(5), f^-1(6)= +/- √(6), f^-1(7)= +/- √(7), f^-1(8)= +/- 2√(2)
(c) Assuming I did the above correct, I have no idea how to do this part because clearly √(x) is not going to have a real solution from [-4,-1]

Any help would be awesome! Thanks!
James
 
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hammonjj said:
Homework Statement :
Define f: ℝ→ℝ by f(x)=x^2. Find f^-1(T) for each of the following:

(a) T = {9}
(b) T = [4,9)
(c) T = [-4,9]

The attempt at a solution:
So, the inverse of f should be f^-1(T)=+/-√(x). Therefor:

(a) f^-1(9)= +/- 3
(b) f^-1(4)= +/- 2, f^-1(5)= +/- √(5), f^-1(6)= +/- √(6), f^-1(7)= +/- √(7), f^-1(8)= +/- 2√(2)
(c) Assuming I did the above correct, I have no idea how to do this part because clearly √(x) is not going to have a real solution from [-4,-1]

Any help would be awesome! Thanks!
James
The function f(x) = x2, having the domain, ℝ, does not have an inverse function.

What f -1(T) refers to is called the "inverse image" of set T for the function f.

Does your textbook have a definition for the inverse image, f -1(T), where T is a set?
 
SammyS said:
The function f(x) = x2, having the domain, ℝ, does not have an inverse function.

What f -1(T) refers to is called the "inverse image" of set T for the function f.

Does your textbook have a definition for the inverse image, f -1(T), where T is a set?


They have one, but it's about 2 sentences long. If I'm understanding correctly:

C \subseteq A

So,

f: C → f(C) and, therefor

f^-1: f(C) → f^-1(C)

I might be abusing notation a bit on this, so please correct me.

What I don't understand is how exactly do I find f^-1 if it is not the inverse function?
 
The very, very first proof I had to present before a class in graduate school had to do with "f^{-1}(X)" for X a set. I did the whole proof assuming that f was invertible! Very embarassing!

hamonjj, these are sets- otherwise "f^{-1}" for f(x)= x^2 wouldn't make sense.

The definition of f^{-1}(A) for A a set is:
f^{1}(A)= \{ x| f(x)\in A\}. In particular, f^{-1} of a set is a set. Yes, f(3)= 9 and f(-3)= 9 so that f^{-1}(9)= \{-3, 3\}- be sure to write the answer as a set.

(b) f^-1(4)= +/- 2, f^-1(5)= +/- √(5), f^-1(6)= +/- √(6), f^-1(7)= +/- √(7), f^-1(8)= +/- 2√(2)
Why are you looking at integers only? We are talking about a function from R to R, not integers. f(2)= 4 and f(3)= 9. And if 2< x< 3 then 4< x^2< 9. f of any number between 2 and 3 is in this set- the interval [2, 3) is in this set (do you see why 3 is NOT in the set?). But it is also true that f(-2)= 4 and f(-3)= 9 so the interval (-3, 2] is in the set. f^{-1}[4, 9)= [2, 3)\cup (-3, 2].

For (c), there are NO (real) x such that f(x)< 0 so we can ignore the "-4" part. But any number from -3 to 3 will have square between 0 and 9 and so between -4 and 9.
 

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