What are the possible combinations in a poker game with a standard 52-card deck?

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The discussion revolves around calculating probabilities and combinations in a poker game using a standard 52-card deck. Participants are exploring how to determine the number of possible 5-card hands and the probabilities associated with specific hands, such as pairs and flushes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate the number of combinations for drawing 5 cards from a deck and question the distinction between permutations and combinations. There is confusion regarding the phrasing of problems, particularly about distinguishing between suits and the implications for calculating probabilities. Some participants are also exploring the complexities of defining specific hands like one pair or flushes.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on their understanding of combinations and probabilities. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct terminology and the need for precise definitions in the context of poker hands. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the initial answers provided.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the definitions of terms such as "suits" and "combinations," and there is a noted lack of clarity in the original questions posed. The complexity of calculating probabilities for specific hands, such as one pair versus other combinations, is also under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


in a poker game we want to calculate the Probability to get differnet combinations. in a card deck there are 52 cards from 4 different series. each series has 13 cards. we assume that each card get 5 random cards.

What is the number of combinations to get the cards? (The order isn't important)
my answer: 52*51*50*49*48

what is the number of combinations if we don't distinguish?
My answer: 52C5-13*12*4 (the number of combinations to choose 5 cards - the number of combinations which repeat themselves)

What is the probability to get K,J,Q,A,Flush and all the cards are from the same series?
My answer: (52/52)(12/52)(11/52)(10/52)(9/52)

what is the probability to get a one pair (two card of the same kind)?
My answer: 3!*(52/52)(3/52)(48/52)(47/52)(46/52)

We play N times. What's the probability that until the Nth game we won't get one pair and in the last game we will get one pair?
My answer:[(1-3!*(52/52)(3/52)(48/52)(47/52)(46/52))^(n-1)]*(3!*(52/52)(3/52)(48/52)(47/52)(46/52))

Is it correct?
thanks
 
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Cosmossos said:

Homework Statement


in a poker game we want to calculate the Probability to get differnet combinations. in a card deck there are 52 cards from 4 different series. each series has 13 cards. we assume that each card get 5 random cards.

What is the number of combinations to get the cards? (The order isn't important)
my answer: 52*51*50*49*48

The "series" are usually called "suits". Do you mean to ask how many possible different 5 card hands can be dealt? If so, your answer is wrong. You have given the number of permutations of 52 things 5 at a time, P(52,5), which counts different orders as different hands. You want combinations, C(52,5), which doesn't distinguish different orders of the same 5 card hands.
what is the number of combinations if we don't distinguish?
My answer: 52C5-13*12*4 (the number of combinations to choose 5 cards - the number of combinations which repeat themselves)

Don't distinguish what? This is a confused paragraph; see above.

What is the probability to get K,J,Q,A,Flush and all the cards are from the same series?
My answer: (52/52)(12/52)(11/52)(10/52)(9/52)

No. How many royal flushes are there? How many possible 5 card hands are there? Use those figures.

what is the probability to get a one pair (two card of the same kind)?
My answer: 3!*(52/52)(3/52)(48/52)(47/52)(46/52)

It's more complicated than that. Normally, when you say you have one pair it means you don't have a better hand. So you can't have a full house, which includes a pair or 3 or 4 of a kind.
 
Don't distinguish what? This is a confused paragraph; see above.
If we don't distinguish between the suits...


No. How many royal flushes are there? How many possible 5 card hands are there? Use those figures.
I don't understand what you meant. I need to find the probability to get a shape/color and all the cards are from the same suit.


It's more complicated than that. Normally, when you say you have one pair it means you don't have a better hand. So you can't have a full house, which includes a pair or 3 or 4 of a kind.
So what do I do?

The other answers are correct?
 
Cosmossos said:
If we don't distinguish between the suits...
I don't understand what you meant. I need to find the probability to get a shape/color and all the cards are from the same suit.
So what do I do?

The other answers are correct?

What in the world does "shape/color and all the cards from the same suit" mean?

I doubt your answers are correct, but it's hard to tell given that I can't figure out what you are really intending to ask. If these questions are from a text, please copy them verbatim so I know what they really say.
 
O.k , Forget about it, I need help only with the following qeustions:
what is the number of combinations if we don't distinguish between the suits?
And:
We play N times. What's the probability that until the Nth game we won't get only one pair and in the last game we will get one pair?
Trying to answer: Is like (1-get one pair)^(n-1) * (get one pair)?
 

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