What Are the Post-Navy Job Opportunities for Nuclear-Qualified Machinist Mates?

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The discussion centers around post-Navy job opportunities for individuals who have served as nuclear-qualified machinist mates. Participants explore various career paths, skills gained during service, and the potential benefits and challenges of such roles, including both technical and lifestyle considerations.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Debate/contested
  • Personal experience sharing

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a machinist mate position provides valuable skills, even without nuclear qualification.
  • Others propose alternative roles, such as sonar technician, highlighting different career paths within the Navy.
  • A participant mentions the potential for post-service employment with defense contractors like Lockheed Martin and in applied research labs.
  • Several contributions emphasize the advantages of military experience in securing jobs in the nuclear power industry, noting that utilities prefer candidates with such backgrounds.
  • One participant shares personal experience, stating that many Navy veterans transition successfully into civilian roles, particularly in the nuclear sector.
  • Concerns are raised about the lifestyle associated with Navy service, including the challenges of communication and the nature of shift work in the nuclear industry.
  • There is mention of the potential for high earnings in the nuclear field, contingent on passing licensing exams, though the nature of work may vary significantly.
  • Some participants clarify that the title of nuclear machinist mate may not reflect actual machinist training, particularly in submarine service.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the suitability of a machinist mate role versus other positions, as well as differing opinions on the lifestyle implications of Navy service. There is no clear consensus on the best path forward, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of machinist roles within different Navy contexts, and the discussion reflects personal experiences that may not generalize across all service members.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering military service, particularly in technical roles, as well as those interested in post-service career opportunities in the nuclear and defense industries.

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I'm suggesting to my nephew that he enlist and go for nuclear-qualified machinist mate position. I'd like to hear about post-Navy job opportunities in this field. Thanks.
 
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Why not sonar tech? Get to work with sonar on land, sea and undersea.
 
That's a possibility but machinist mate would give him some good skills even w/o the nuclear qualification. However, the kid's mom quashed the idea of the military...period. My information operations campaign is now going covert.
 
Aaronvan said:
That's a possibility but machinist mate would give him some good skills even w/o the nuclear qualification. However, the kid's mom quashed the idea of the military...period. My information operations campaign is now going covert.

Can you blame her? Many recruiters will sell you a load of baloney and call it sirloin.
 
jedishrfu said:
Can you blame her? Many recruiters will sell you a load of baloney and call it sirloin.

I don't blame her because she's the mom. However, he is old enough to at least discuss it. I'm a 22-year vet and would sit down with the recruiter and make sure he gets every perk in the contract.
 
After service jobs, consider Lockheed Martin and other defense contractors who do naval contract work. Some universities have applied research labs that also do contract work for the armed forces.

I'd suggest you talk to him about becoming an MEch Eng and take advantage of the service sending him off to do training. Basically think long term with service being a stepping stone.
 
My oldest nephew is a Navy lifer, and he progressed from being a machinist mate to supervising on-board machine shops, (mostly on nuke carriers) etc, and is now a Master Chief. He has so many stripes on the sleeve of his dress uniform... I am very proud of him.

He and his (also lifer) wife have been ported out of San Diego, Honolulu, and other places so distant that my little sister could not afford to visit with them and their daughter. Lately, he has been re-ported to Virginia, and they will be at my father's place for Christmas Eve.
 
I should mention that this is not an ideal life-style for many. My nephew and I communicate by emails, since those are free. He can't afford to have long rambling telephone communications, so we "make do".

If he ever decides to retire and be a "civvie" he will have more work available than he can possibly handle. Maine is loaded with machine shops making parts for subs, jets, tanks, etc. We are a poor state, but with a lot of skilled talent. Best of all, he won't have to start at the bottom. If you have served as the machinist chief on the Connie, chances are any shop in the state would love to have him, and make him the COO
 
Aaronvan said:
I'm suggesting to my nephew that he enlist and go for nuclear-qualified machinist mate position. I'd like to hear about post-Navy job opportunities in this field. Thanks.
As a machinist mate, he'd pick up some practical experience. Has he attended university and obtained a degree? Or otherwise, has he done well in school?

In my nuclear engineering program, one of my colleagues had experience in the Navy before attending university. I believe he was an officer. He later went on to become a program director at North American Rockwell, then Rocketdyne. Another colleague went into the Navy after school, became an officer and ended up commanding a submarine. There were others from the Navy or Air Force who were getting MS degrees.

There is plenty of opportunities for someone with experience in the military, particularly in the Naval or Air Force propulsion programs. Manufacturers/suppliers and utilities like to hire folks with the kind of discipline one obtains in the military. I know quite a few vets.
 
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Astronuc said:
As a machinist mate, he'd pick up some practical experience. Has he attended university and obtained a degree? Or otherwise, has he done well in school?

In my nuclear engineering program, one of my colleagues had experience in the Navy before attending university. I believe he was an officer. He later went on to become a program director at North American Rockwell, then Rocketdyne. Another colleague went into the Navy after school, became an officer and ended up commanding a submarine. There were others from the Navy or Air Force who were getting MS degrees.

There is plenty of opportunities for someone with experience in the military, particularly in the Naval or Air Force propulsion programs. Manufacturers/suppliers and utilities like to hire folks with the kind of discipline one obtains in the military. I know quite a few vets.

No, he is a senior in high school. I think he gets B's in math--I'm pretty sure he's no John von Neumann. ;-) In any case, as an enlisted man he would be more of a technician using basic technical maths skill (I think just the officers go to grad school for nuclear engineering.)

I do know he can get MM in his enlistment contract but he would have to apply for the nuke career track later.
 
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turbo said:
I should mention that this is not an ideal life-style for many. My nephew and I communicate by emails, since those are free. He can't afford to have long rambling telephone communications, so we "make do".

If he ever decides to retire and be a "civvie" he will have more work available than he can possibly handle. Maine is loaded with machine shops making parts for subs, jets, tanks, etc. We are a poor state, but with a lot of skilled talent. Best of all, he won't have to start at the bottom. If you have served as the machinist chief on the Connie, chances are any shop in the state would love to have him, and make him the COO

Master chief on a carrier! That's excellent. I love how not even the ship's captain can enter the chief's mess without an invite. :-p He'll be well situation for a post-navy career. BTY, this is a pretty good machinist site you might pass on to him:

http://www.practicalmachinist.com
 
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Well, I was a Navy Nuclear Propulsion Program person as an enlisted Machinist Mate. I worked in the submarine force for many years, prior to my career change to physics.

The nuclear power industry likes Navy Nukes. I know there are several utilities that actively seek persons who have this experience. The majority of nuclear power plants operating in the United States are of the Pressurized Water design. This is the design used by the Navy. The operational experience and similar design makes Nukes attractive. Another huge factor that is often overlooked is the utilities invest quite a bit of money and time to qualify someone to operate these power plants. Nukes have a much higher probability to pass the licensing exam. The income once becoming licensed is usually in the 6 figure range with good benefits. The down side is that most operations persons work shift work. Some persons do not mind this other abhor this type of work. Usually there are opportunities to move out of shift work later.

I should point out that the title is a bit misleading. A nuclear machinist mate often does not receive training as machinists. This may be because I was on submarines and we did not have the space for the equipment. I cannot speak for the surface fleet. I did quite a lot of work on steam valves, heat exchangers, pumps, etc. I did not machine anything in 10 years of service.

Currently I work for a federal agency. My career in the Navy got me this position. The 11 man team I work with consists of 8 Navy Nukes. Most have worked in the commercial nuclear power industry. Consistent throughout the group is that the experience in the Navy was the key to getting into the nuclear industry.
 

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