What are the requirements for being a great physicist?

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The discussion revolves around the qualities and requirements for becoming a great physicist, with a focus on personal attributes, intelligence measures like IQ, and the importance of curiosity and creativity. Participants share their perspectives on what defines a "great" physicist and the paths to achieving success in the field.

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  • Some participants argue that IQ is not a definitive measure of potential in physics, suggesting that qualities like curiosity and creativity are more important.
  • Others propose that defining what constitutes a "great physicist" is essential, noting that historical figures like Einstein and Feynman had unique traits and circumstances that are difficult to replicate.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of hard work and internal motivation, suggesting that these traits can help overcome challenges in the field.
  • A participant with engineering experience highlights common traits among successful physicists, including curiosity about a wide range of topics, willingness to engage in all aspects of their work, and humility regardless of accolades.
  • Another participant reflects on their own past beliefs about IQ, suggesting that it is an imperfect measure of intelligence and that true understanding may require more complex assessments.
  • Creativity and an open mind are valued by some participants as essential qualities for making discoveries and developing theories in physics.

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Participants express a range of views on the importance of IQ, with some dismissing it as irrelevant while others acknowledge its potential role in assessing intelligence. There is no consensus on a singular definition of what makes a great physicist, and the discussion remains open-ended regarding the necessary traits and paths to success.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the difficulty in defining intelligence and the limitations of IQ tests, suggesting that personal experiences and traits may vary widely among individuals pursuing physics.

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High school students interested in pursuing physics, educators in STEM fields, and individuals exploring the qualities that contribute to success in scientific disciplines may find this discussion relevant.

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I am currently a high school student, and have been studying advanced physics and mathematics on my own since I was thirteen. I don’t know what my true IQ is, although I have taken some online tests and it claims it’s between135 and 145. I have a deep love for physics, but I fear failure due to not being intelligent, or skilled enough, and I’m not sure how to proceed.
 
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Don't worry about IQ, of course you need to be smart enough, but IQ alone does not determine your chances that you might make a sensational breakthrough of some kind.
But if a making a sensational breakthrough is your ambition, it doesn't happen every day in physics.
Theories get gradually improved, and measurements get gradually more accurate.
 
IQ tests are rubbish whether they are online or not. The first thing you need to do is define what a great physicist is. If you mean Einstein or Feynman, you need foremost a tremendous amount of luck, and then secondarily mysterious talents whose biological and social origin are so poorly understood that having any degree of attachment to replicating them is hopeless, if enjoyable to ponder as a hobbyist diversion into psychology.

If you mean being an average physicist, I suspect without proof that most people are capable of this, even if they require more or less effort than others. You can probably in principle do it. Because theorists typically have fewer things to do and less need for grunt work the academic bar is higher than for experiment where the demand for grunts is higher, but you'll need to be hard working either way. The demand for theory also depends upon the discipline.
 
To decide your fate on something like this will prevent you from pursuing your dream. Forget the IQ number. It might not even be valid coming from some online resource.

The real skill is to be insatiably curious, to have an open mind and to learn all you can in science, math and art. You never know how your imagination will put things together to come up with a new discovery or great theory.
 
Thanks for the help!
 
And internal motivation to help you put in the extra time and to help you through the difficulties. Good luck, learn plenty and prosper.
 
I'm an engineer and I work with physicists on a daily basis. The best ones have the following traits in common:

1. Intensely curious. A good physicist is typically curious about everything. They want to understand their research and how to solve the technical problems, of course, but they also want to know how the CAD tools I use work, or how integrated circuits are processed, or in the cafeteria at lunch they want to know details about how social security payments are calculated or how driving techniques to increase your MPG. Every great physicist I've ever met is just wired that way.

2. Not afraid to get their hands dirty. Now this one is not universal, especially with a couple of theoretical physicists I have met, but when it comes to experimentalists a common trait is "no job is beneath them". They will write Python scripts, move racks of equipment, attend technical engineering design reviews, and even bring in coffee to an early meeting. It really sets the tone of the group.

3. Don't put on airs. Again, there are exceptions, but I have a couple of Nobel prizewinners that work in my building and they are amazingly down to Earth and easy to talk to. I actually worked on a proposal with one of them and was amazed at how he was a regular guy. The Nobel prize didn't change him at all.
 
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I would like to echo what the other have said, especially analogdesign, but I'm going to talk about IQ. If the OP is anything like me, and I think he/she is since I had the same thoughts at that age, then he/she will also think that they know better and are smarter than most other people. and that their thoughts are probably more accurate, though the experience of others is helpful. I know I thought that IQ was imperfect but still extremely accurate, party out of arrogance (I pretty much thought I was the smartest person on Earth lol), but I now know that a simple test designed by the conscious human mind cannot, and can never, accurately judge the conscious and subconscious mind of others, it is simply to difficult with too many sources of error. If we can ever really accurately determine how smart someone is, then it will be by the analysis and scanning of someone's brain activity over a period of years.

I would like to stress that I am in no way implying that the OP is anywhere near as arrogant as I was, or that he/she even had any of these thoughts in the first place. But the possibility that they are like me exists, and I want to say this in case that possibility is true. Please do not take any offense from this, anyone.
 
One of my favorite role models has been the scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz movie. He always appeared to not know what to do until something needed to be done. Many of his solutions were out of the box opportunities that he recognized and made great movie magic too.

I value creativity and an open mind willing to learn over IQ any day.
 
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